Which HB in a single format sounds really like a HB ?

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  1. 77zark77

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    Hi guys,
    Sorry if it has been already discussed, but I have a project that is not mine. Err....
    I'm an Ibanez and metal guy, and have to buy to my brother a US HSS Strat
    I had a lot of great finds on some SSS and asked myself which humbucker (single sized)
    could replace the single bridge PU - which, obviously, have to sound like a real HB

    I have experiences with a lot of PUs but.... not in this situation ! :oops:

    Thanks for your advices ;)
     
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    Why not get a full size humbucker? It's not like HSS Strat pickguards are hard to come by.
     
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    Any routing needed ?
    So HSS PG + full size HB is the best solution as no single sized HB equals full size ones ?
     
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    Most of the time, no, unless it's a vintage spec model. Most MIM and MIA Strats in the last ten years or so have had HSH or HSS routing under the pickguard.
     
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    thanx - good to know :)
     
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    A good rule of thumb is if there was an HSS model available in that series there will be a humbucker compatible route.

    Fender is smart enough to not make multiple bodies for the same series, so they route everything the same.

    Like I said though, anything that's based on a vintage model, including some signature models, will more often than not be true SSS routed.
     
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    Thanx again - Max or the hidden side of the pickguard ! :lol: (better laugh when you have no science)
     
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    I would pop open the hood. For my guitar Standard Strat it has something called a universal or pool route that allows you to fuck around with any type of pickup config, no routing required which IMO is a plus to a customer since for me I play metal and I need to do some mods to the guitar to make it 'me'

    Hope this info helps you out!


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    (An image of what it looks like on a strat)
     
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    I wouldn't say none, but the options are really limited.

    I think the SD Lil'59 is probably the most full-size sounding you're gonna find.

    That's not to say there aren't other good single-size humbuckers, they just sound a bit different and might take some adjustment. I actually really like the DiMarzio BC series and TZS, but I wouldn't say they're identical to existing humbuckers.
     
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    I would agree with you there

    Options are very limited on that and they really don't do it well. The only way to get a humbucker sound is to get a humbucker

    It is just like when people ask "How do I make my strat sound like a Les Paul" or vice versa majority of people tell them to get that LP or Strat sound get a LP or Strat

    So In my opinion I would go for the full sized humbucker. You will have multiple options and all of them have different voicings and you might like a certain tone preferably that maybe a Single sized humbucker can't produce.

    I would go with more of a variety with the full sized humbucker and certain pickguard for your strat can be custom made at warmoth for fuckin pennies practically. Honestly just go with the full sized humbucker. You will be getting the real tone since it is a genuine humbucker
     
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    My '97 Am Std is the same way. Great for fondue.
     
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    I already be deceived/disapointed by some of DiMarzios (Fast track or so ) but SD Lil59 and single sized ToneZone were already in my collimator - now I have to compose with custom PG or not
     
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    The FastTrack and Chopper are pretty "meh" overall. Probably some of my least favorite DiMarzios. I swear, Andy Timmons is a magician for making them sound good. :lol:
     
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    I was gonna say the ProTrack is not bad, but then read your reply.
     
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    He uses the Cruiser bridge model in the neck and middle.

    I bought the full Cruiser set for a project strat,
    and they are really good after getting used to them.

    They excel at distorted sounds.
    Clean, they are lacking that important top-end.
     
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    I want to say he used to use the Chopper in the bridge on one of his old Ibanez models. I could be wrong. I know someone uses/used them and made them work. I just know it wasn't me. :lol:
     
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    I have to say now ( I couldn't before due to severe mind attack ! haha !) but I put a Chopper/Fastrack1 combo in one of my RBM1 (middle and neck) and.......have.......to....admit.................I should have let the originals ! :sick:
     
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    Yeah, I don't mean to bash twin rail singles.
    I've heard them sound great, and many people love the Hot Rails especially wired parallel, Tone Zone S, and Lil'59 are super popular.

    But for all out fatness/faux HB single coil size...
    the Dimarzio Fast Track 2, Distortion S, & TZ S are about as good as it gets.
     

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