(VIDEO - FEMALE VOCAL COVER) Periphery - Erised

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  1. DeltaOrionis

    DeltaOrionis SS.org Regular

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    Hi guys,
    just wanted to promote the new Youtube video, that I helped producing, by the italian vocalist Federica Putti!

    It's the cover of "Erised" by Periphery, such a beautiful song.
    Maybe she's not as good as Spencer, but she did her best and it would be cool if some of you guys could write something nice to her (given you have a YouTube account)!

    Here's the video, watch in HD for more Djent:



    Hope someone will appreciate! :)
     
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  2. Narrillnezzurh

    Narrillnezzurh Sir Clipsalot

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    The original vocal track is too prominent, it obscures her voice.
     
  3. bandinaboy

    bandinaboy SS.org Unsui

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    What a cruel camera angle.

    Shes good, but it looks like she has no volume compared to spencer. I mean it works, but its like void of emotion or something.
     
  4. toiletstand

    toiletstand /\'...'/\

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    not bad! good job!
     
  5. Randyrhoads123

    Randyrhoads123 Got a 7

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    Yeah, it's very quiet. She sounds like she's singing at a speaking volume, instead of a singing volume. She also goes into falsetto when she should just be singing in chest voice. Not too impressed.
     
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    Empryrean Constantly Gassing

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    Aside from the part at :22 sounding like it's too low for her, I think she sounds perdy ok!
     
  7. Valennic

    Valennic Many Fingers

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    Lovely aerial chesticle view going on there, but I agree with the above statements.

    However, it is cool hearing a lady sing it. Now she needs to sing it with BALLS
     
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    Great camera angles
     
  9. Loomer

    Loomer Comfortably Dumb

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    I don't need to see that link to know that dudes are whiteknighting the everloving shit out of her.
     
  10. DeltaOrionis

    DeltaOrionis SS.org Regular

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    Maybe the original track is too high (but personally I don't think so), but she was definitely singing very loud. Also she never goes into falsetto.

    Don't know what you're talking about!
     
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    I'd also have to agree that the original vocal track is too loud - although it doesn't obscure her voice too much, it is distracting and doesn't sound too good...
     
  12. Speculum Speculorum

    Speculum Speculorum SS.org Regular

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    Part of the issue is that the vocal part isn't mixed. Part of the problem is that this melody is in a range of that doesn't flatter the woman singing it. It's a novel try, but...

    All of the high-range parts for Spencer are belted, as others have said, from his chest voice. His belting range is her natural and unstrained singing range, and thus the performance comes off as un-energetic. She most certainly goes into falsetto in at least one of spot and sings in her head voice in others, which just cannot emulate the energy of a good hard rock vocal (even if head voice is better technique and does no damage, it just doesn't sound the same).

    I didn't even watch the video because I was more interested in hearing the voice (which is nice and sweet if not a little generic, btw), but as I looked up to check some things, it seems that she's uncomfortable with the performance. She continually glances up at the camera and doesn't seem enraptured in her attention to the part. Perhaps that's because it's highly strange (no matter how confident one is in their assets) to be performing while some dude is pointing a camera down your shirt like a prequel to a porn scene, but what do I know?
     
  13. DeltaOrionis

    DeltaOrionis SS.org Regular

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    While I agree with you for the most part, I think that the last part of your post was really rude.

    If you're watching to her shirt, is because probably you're a pervert: SHE asked for that camera angle, because she thinks that her face is too "round" and wanted an upper camera view to make it seem more thin. Even if she is athletic and far from being fat, how can you explain this to a GIRL?
    Stop reasoning with your dick.

    Moreover, as it often happens in this kind of videos, this is not a live performance: we recorded audio and video separately. So your suppositions about her vocal performance being uncomfortable are wrong.
    She's clancing at the camera to establish a contact with the viewer, plus she smiles a lot: how in the world can you say that a person with a spontaneous smile, is a person who's feeling uncomfortable?

    The vocals are mixed: any louder than that and her vocals would be "out of the mix", if you know what I mean. The problem is that this is not a backing track, so that's the best compromise in terms of mixing that we found.
    You can still hear her voice clearly though.

    A guy here said:
    "I don't need to see that link to know that dudes are whiteknighting the everloving shit out of her."

    Well, I don't think so: the girls are ALWAYS overly criticized in every YouTube video I've found. Sure, they get more views, but they get also a lot more dislikes, criticism and usually the good comments you can find include the words "breast", "tits", "ass" and stuff like that.

    That said, I think I'll not ever post a video of my girlfriend in this forum anymore. Criticism is good (IF controlled), but a lot of comments here were far from being "kind" or "polite": she read all of them, and she was really disappointed.
    Plus she has a pretty low self-esteem, so this is not helping.

    Thank you guys.
     
  14. Djentleguy

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    Wow.... I like it, it sounds awesome with female vocals.
     
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    Good cover, i dont really get the thing about volume, some of the best vocalists dont really have that much volume, whitch adds in a fragility to my ear that is pleasing. However she is going into falsetto slightly too easily for me, she isnt trying to get that mid point between normal singing and falsetto.

    Id like to hear it in a audio track with her voice only, no other voice mixed in and with no camera as i think she is camera aware, whitch is affecting her vocal performance.

    I do not dislike the performance, but i do think it could be much better in terms of execution. Its clean at the moment, but i feel it could become a performance that just sparkles.
     
  16. Speculum Speculorum

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    First off, sorry about upsetting you and your girlfriend. It was a sad attempt at internet joke. It probably didn't transfer over very well. So once again, my apologies.

    Then again, you posted an aerial view of your girlfriend wearing a low-cut shirt on a male-dominated, mostly heavy metal oriented forum... you expected chivalry?

    All chicanery aside, I didn't watch the video until I was needing to go back and listen to small parts again. I never said that she had a bad voice. In fact, it's quite lovely. It's just a tough piece for a chick to sing because of the register it dominates. I would pick something a little more appropriate for her range so that she can show us where she really shines.

    Further, I didn't say you didn't add some effects to the vocal. I said that it's difficult to get it to sound mixed... because as you pointed out, you aren't working with the backing tracks. And also, you never said that the vocal was recorded separately from the video, so if we get the impression that the camera was effecting the performance, that's because you gave us the impression that it was a live recording. Peace out.
     
  17. bhakan

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    I thought it sounded good, but I agree that her vocals should be higher in the mix. I found it difficult to hear in certain spots. This way does sound more like a real mix, but seeing as this is a cover, the point is to show off her singing, and the volume masks it somewhat.
    I think you're getting angry a little quickly. I didn't really think any of the comments here were rude. They were giving honest criticisms. Isn't the point of posting a video on the internet so that you can get constructive criticism and improve? I may be incorrect, but I read the tone of the posts as "she's good, but could improve ______," not "she's terrible, and can't do _____."
     
  18. DeltaOrionis

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    That's ok.

    I was just expecting more kindness from this forum in general and, yeah, maybe also "chivalry" as you said: especially because she's a girl, and we all know how they are more sensitive and how they can't handle criticism very well.

    But as I said, guys tend to become overly critical when a girl invades their territory: in this case, Music. You seem a smart guy, and you probably know that I'm right.
    Not that constructive criticism is bad, but you have to choose your words carefully when dealing with a girl.

    Also I noticed that's a common practice here being overly critical, I feel there's not the right spirit, especially in the "Recording Studio" section: we are guys sharing the same passion for music, sharing the love for the same genre (in most cases) and sharing our work.
    But I do not see fellowship, I don't see support for each other.
    What I generally see is "Dude, I'm listening to your track with my uber-cool-nerdy-overpriced mixing headphones and wanted to say that I can clearly hear a fart in your 500hz range, and also I heard a cat in the 1000hz range because 2000hz != 850hz, but I love listening to 2000hz when I'm taking a 400hz (which is the poo frequency range). So in the end your mix sucks. And sorry if I didn't say anything about the actual composition, but I'm too nerd to comment on that". Can someone second me on that? I think so.

    So in the end, that's probably the reason why there aren't much girls in this forum.
    And that's probably the reason I won't post videos about my girlfriend, here on Sevenstring, anymore.

    Not dissing anyone in particular, I just think that's not the right place to do so.

    Some of the posts weren't as polite as you claim, and she noticed it. I'm not angry, I'm just sorry for her.
     
  19. bhakan

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    I can see some comments coming across as rude, I didn't think that was the intention, but it very well could have been.
    This seems kind of sexist to me. It can be the case, but I know girls who have tougher skin than the many guys.

    I personally like this about SSO. If people point out all the tiny details, I can learn from them, and be that much closer to a "perfect" mix. If it weren't for those comments, I don't know if I would post my mixes here.
     
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    I didn't sense any elitism in the comments here, just criticism. I missed the belting a lot!
     

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