Victory VX100 - The Super Kraken

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  1. Deadpool_25

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    Congratulations! Looks like a sweet amp. Are you in the US? And that pic...Timeline, HX Effects, and MC6. I have those too. Nice little setup. Do you have it all setup with presets?
     
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    Thanks! Yep, I'm near Pittsburgh. And yes, I'm using presets. Its not very in depth yet, but for now I have the 3 channels of the amp assigned to the bottom 3 buttons on the MC6, the same channels with Preamp Focus engaged on the top 3, and each of those buttons also selects a preset on the HX. Timeline is in one of the loops on the hx, so I control it from there. I loved the way the Kemper foot controller worked, so I built this to work the same way. I have V4 Kraken up on ebay too right now if anyone is intereseted.
     
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    Damn that looks nice. Congrats man!
     
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    Gasing for oneone these.... Super kraken
     
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    Thanks guys. Since a couple people PMed, I got it from Thomann Music with the cab for about $2175 shipped. I preordered fortunately, they went out of stock almost immediately. Seems they're like the Sweetwater of Europe. They also have what looks to be their own brand called Harley Benton. They sell V30 loaded cabs for less you can buy the speakers for, and ship them to the US for 33 bucks. And here's some more porn.
     

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  6. Deadpool_25

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    @t00lgasm

    How would you describe the clean? Can you compare it to anything? Headroom before breaking up? And are you playing any Tool through it?? :)
     
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    I've only ever owned 2 amps that weren't high gain heads. A Mesa DC5 and a 70s Fender Twin reverb. It instantly reminded me of the Twin reverb. And turning up the gain has kind of the same sound and effect as turning up the volume on a twin reverb. I'm not a connoisseur of clean, but its best clean I've heard in a high gain head. I run the gain on it at about 9 oclock and its just starting to breakup into the grainy Kraken sound. Usually I buy an amp for the gain channels and deal with whatever clean I get. Theres no comprimise here, the cleans are great. As far as head room, its nearly unlimited I suppose, much like any other 100 watt 6l6 amp. Its too loud before you can get the power tubes to contribute. Of course, theres the 30 watt setting on the amp, but I haven't experimented with its headroom.

    And yes, I don't play much of other artists music, but more tool more than any other :) I spent a lot of money on Kemper profiles trying to get Adam Jones tone, which is my all time favorite tone. The Kraken pedal and Super Kraken nail it. Better than the best VH4 kemper profiles. At least as an amp in the room, it sounds better to my ears. Ive never played an actual VH4 or Superbass. But Kraken has got that crisp, clear, saturated crunch on Gain I thats perfect for his sound. One of the main reasons I bought it.
     
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    Call Victory. Tell them you just sold me an amp. Lol
     
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    Hahaha I know, I feel like such a fanboy, but it really is that good :) The build/fit/finish is too. No plastic hardware like marshall, or plastic knob posts like blackstar. UK made custom name brand transformers, you can see the label through the back grille, not Chinese crap assembled outside of china. And you can see where my EQ is set in the pictures, its perfect across all channels.
     
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    I guess I’ll find out next week.
    Trigger = pulled
     
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    No kidding? Awesome! I cant wait to have someone else to appreciate it with! Be sure to stop back and let me know what you think. Where'd you purchase from?
     
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    I called Zzounds and asked for a deal and they gave it to me for a little cheaper. No tax, free shipping. Good enough lol.
     
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    Still absolutely worth it. You'll see when you get it, its practically boutique. I have no idea how that can sell it for the price they do. Mesa charges twice as much for the same quality. And at least you'll have US support. I have no idea what I'd do if it had come damaged or I needed to return it. Plus I had to change the mains fuse and power cable, cause I got the Euro version :) I'm so excited for you lol
     
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    Awesome feedback on the Super Kraken, congrats man! I'm curious what your thoughts are on the shared gain knob for the clean and gain I channels? It seems like if you want high gain on Gain I, then you can't really get a clean clean without using your volume knob?

    Also, can you compare gain II to any other amps? Is it like 5150/6505? Mark? They market it as an American/Modern channel, with Gain I being more British/Classic vibe. Cheers
     
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    Sure man! So the shared gain, yes. I also wondered how it would work out. A couple of amps back, I had an Engl Fireball 100, and it was a single eq, 2 channel, 4 mode head so I already figured I would be fine with kraken. The whole amp has a ton of gain, every channel has a lot of gain on tap. I've got mine set at 10 o'clock and it gives me a solid high gain rock sound on Gain I and the cleans are right on the line of breaking up with picking dynamics. The Preamp focus switch kind of gives you 2 more variants of gain though. Using it with gain I turns that rock sound into an a punchy metal rhythm sound. I don't personally care for the sound of the clean channel boosted because it sounds like a really hot Fender, and thats not my thing :) So hopefully that gives you and idea of how the gain relates. I could turn down the gain just a little and get the clean completely clean and would probably not notice much gain reduction on Gain I. But I like my cleans a little gritty, so I set it that way. By the way, I'm using active Fishman Fluence pickups. But if you're looking for super clean and super high gain, on that same channel, you may feel hampered. But it sounds so good on every gain setting none of this matters :)

    As for Gain II, it seems to have the EQ curve of a 5150ish. But that doesn't do it justice. It has a harmonic content Ive never heard before, and this grainy warm gain and its all so responsive. I first heard of the Kraken while looking for commercial high gain kemper profiles. And I started to read about an amp the profilers couldn't profile. So I checked it out and decided I had to hear this no name new metal amp that my profiler couldn't profile. So I bought the V4 and fell in love. And traded it all for a super kraken :)
    Gain I is sort of a kraken flavored modded JCM 800

    Sorry, I used a lot of words to explain that, hope it helps :)
     
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    Great write up man, this is great to hear. I've been on a bit of an amp binge lately, but I'm adding this to the list. I've been wanting the Kraken preamp for a while now. I'm sure the Super Kraken takes the cake, but what is your opinion on the preamp now that you have the real thing? I've seen Rabea's video comparing the two, and they sound close enough that I might be happy with just the preamp to get my Kraken on.
     
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    Yeah, you may be man. They sound much alike. Super Kraken has more gain, more options, and maybe a slightly more...energy*? Not sure of the word I want there. Just a little more alive. BUT, that could be because I used the pedal with a Kemper as a power amp instead of a tube amp. The pedal is awesome, it has the same character. I would have been exceedingly happy with the V4, if the VX100 never existed. I wouldn't have bought the 50 watt head instead of the pedal and I'd rather have the pedal and another good 100 watt head, than the 50 watt head. They all have the elemental kraken sound. I might recommend an EQ pedal running after the V4 to really tune it. Also I think the EQ of the channels on the V4 is not quite as shareable as it is on the VX100. I stuck pretty much exclusively to Gain II on the pedal, I use both on the head.

    My V4 is on ebay if you're interested. In fact, if anyone from here wins it, mention you saw it here and I'll throw in the remote floor switch I used with it.
     
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    Have you compared the pre pedal to a Kraken head? I'm interested in the pedal.
     
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    It's literally in the post above yours.
     
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