US Political Discussion: Trump Administration Edition (Rules in OP)

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  1. sleewell

    sleewell SS.org Regular

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    is it strange that trump can tell a rally crowd about the "imminent" threat but that info somehow did not come up in the classified briefing to congress?


    also, trump's DOJ just wrapped the investigation into her emails aaaaaaaaaaaaand found nothing.
     
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    Ralyks The One Who Knocks Contributor

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    Booker is out.
     
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    I think we've known that for awhile...
     
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    I keep forgetting about all these ancillary people that are still technically in. I saw a headline last week that Mary Anne Williamson was laying off staff. I thought she was gone, like, three months ago.
     
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    didn't realize she was an anti vaxxer.... good riddance.
     
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    There go our hopes of First Lady Rosario Dawson :(
     
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    In more significant Democratic primary news, Sanders and his surrogates going aggressive against Biden and Warren both, I'm assuming emboldened by the numbers in Iowa.

    I said from the beginning that the primary should be 1000x more focused on Trump and the GOP Senate than infighting. I'm not a Biden fan but I thought he did a good job of staying above the fray, most of the "establishment" attacks were from his surrogates or directly from Buttigieg.

    I think it's a miscalculation by Sanders because I think he's been doing a good job of beating back all these false 'socialism will lose us the election' fears. The biggest wrinkle in his campaign is that he's a "first place or nothing" bomb thrower based on the headshots he landed on HRC in 2016, and he's spreading those attacks out against the rest of the top 3. I think it's a bad look and he loses more support from it as opposed to turning anyone OFF of Biden/Warren and onto him.

    EDIT: One thing I WILL say in Sanders favor, Iowa is definitely a midwestern-y, blue collar state that it was claimed a progressive couldn't win in. If the numbers keep like that, with Sanders as the candidate or not, that could be a good sign for the Democratic party as a whole.
     
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    It's 2020, we're long past the point of using the primary as a vehicle for ancillary political positions in the future.

    The circumstances that would have to exist for anyone aside from Biden, Warren, or Sanders getting the nod are downright Lovecraftian in mystery and horror.
     
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    Are you saying I should go reseal the Ogdru Jahad, before they help the wrong candidate win?
     
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    Getting less news attention, but the Pentagon is reportedly saying they were unaware of an imminent threat. Getting a little more attention, though not enough, is the fact Trump has reportedly said he based his decision to strike in part on the fact that a few Senators whose votes he's going to depend on in the impeachment trial really wanted him to.

    Agree with both your main post, and your edit, here. Sanders has probably moved up to 2nd from 3rd over Warren, and is benefitting in Iowa mostly from Buttigieg's fade... But it's still a positive for him that he's competitive in Iowa, and it would be a fucking mess if he runs another "first place or bust" campaign and we have another extremely contentious run-up to the convention. Doubly so if Biden is the overall leader but without a full majority, and Sanders is in 2nd, which is a possible outcome here.

    Best case scenario is this turns off non-core, progressive but still establishment friendly members of his caucus, and this results in his sliding in the polls (not for nothing, unlike 2016, the top issue for virtually the entire Democratic voting public is "beat Trump," so a guy going around lobbing headshots at the front runners will presumably pay a price). Worst case scenario is that this entrenches lines of support and we get another progressive vs establishment divide, except unlike 2016 we're also splitting the progressive bloc between the Sanders supporters and Warren/other progressives.

    EDIT - oh, and Williamson dropped out on Friday.
     
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    Perhaps I'm just showing my age here but am I the only one who thought "Cory is no longer in the house" upon reading this? :lol:
     
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    No, you MUST leave it unattended.

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    "Liberal" "News"

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    Aren't there laws about straight up lying in America?
     
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    Eh, aren't analysises opinion pieces/editorials?
     
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    Arguably still a bad look?
     
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    seems like the least of our worries at the moment. even the hill has liberal opinion pieces from time to time. I don't think CNN should be anti trump 24/7. that would be a worse look imo.
     
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    Even though it's an opinion, surely there should be some mechanism in place as it's an opinion that's outright dangerous said from a position of power (ie a journalist with access to a known platform).
     
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    Eh, tough to say... Opinion pieces are supposed to be written free of influence from the editorial board, save of course the occasional piece written by the board (the NY Times does this a lot), and the fact you see an occasional opinion piece cutting against the prevailing tone of a publication is probably healthy.

    I wouldn't read too much into a single editorial here - there are plenty of reasons someone could have for being anti-Pelosi, one of which certainly being she's not liberal enough in the author's eyes.

    From here her strategy didn't seem like it was overly effective, but I, well, never really understood its nuance, and at a minimum I think it's too early to write it off - if nothing else in the time this dragged on we saw a number of potentially flippabble conservative Senators express distate for the degree to which McConnell was working in collusion with the White House, and as increasingly Trump has been angling for a simple up/down vote to dismiss without a trial, a whole bunch of Senators have come out against that, keeping that option off the table. It may be that the strategy here was never really about trying to force McConnell's hand at all, and if you want to go all conspiracy theory here, Pelosi is a pretty "establishment" Democrat, and the two Presidential candidates with the most to lose with this going to trial in late January and early February are progressive darlings Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, though that seems a step too far, to me.
     
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