US Political Discussion: Trump Administration Edition (Rules in OP)

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  1. StevenC

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    @narad's best friend is back!!
     
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  2. Adieu

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    That's just it.

    That's what poison pill coalition politics are made of.

    LGBT, marginalized? All of em? LGB would be on a lot firmer ground without the touchy bathroom politics of T, L&B are more palatable than LGB, and if they could somehow magically and publically divorce the lot of em, L could celebrate victory tomorrow.
     
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    What is a fake account? How can an account be fake? Why exactly is my account fake? What post of his are you referring to?
     
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    Yes.

    https://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/lgbt

    Palatable to whom?

    Why should society kowtow to the minority religious right?

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx
     
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    Because once hitched to each other's agendas, it's damn hard to split at an opportune time

    Come on, face it, hardly anyone is bothered by lesbian marriage or lesbians raising kids, and I'm fairly sure a decent lawyer could convince the catholic pope that two women are physically unable to have sexual Intercourse and thus 100% sin-free
     
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    Here's what I got out of all that:

    If only the Democrats didn't have actual principles, and embraced only the more popular minorities, they would strip away more of the narrower bigots from the GOP and get more votes. Oh, those silly principles!

    *laugh*
     
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    Truthfully, hardly anyone really cares about any denomination of LGBT. It's a small, loud, entrenched, powerful, mostly "religious" minority.

    LGBT acceptance is on the rise year over year, pandering to the bigots is a terrible idea in the long run, and a fairly awful one short term.
     
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    Nah, the trans thing was a mistake. Totally suicidal.

    Championing the right of dudes who either truly believe themselves to be women, just claim to for some fantasy, and either still have their hairy balls firmly attached or paid good money to get em lopped off (...jury's still out on which is more off) to use the little girl's room is TOO FAR against the grain of common sense for way too many people.

    And any populist worth his salt can use support for such an agenda by an opponent to burn and bury them. At any time.

    Sadly getting his get out of jail free cards for pushing nazi crap or commiting high treason in the process

    Because plenty of folk will consider being in the pocket of a corrupt but socially conservative Russian dictator to be a far lesser evil than challenging the sanctity of their daughters' toilet.

    Worst comes to worst, he can always just tweet "NEVER MIND THE RUSSIANS, THINK OF THE CHILDREN" and come out 100% intact
     
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    So if you see someone with a MAGA hat, you wont assume that this person is in the frame of mind of being anti-TPP, pro tax-cuts, pro 2nd amendment, pro bringing-jobs-back....but instead, assume that theyre racist?

    Someone sure nailed it on the head several pages back when they said that you shouldn't just assume the worst of people that you don't know.
     
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    It's one thing to cast your vote a certain way. In my experiences, it's a different thing to "don" (pun absolutely intended) the hat.
     
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    Honestly, yeah. Because anyone wearing that hat and thinks Trump delivered a tax cut better be very wealthy. Anyone wearing that hat and thinking Trump is promoting job growth and business hasn't been paying attention. Anyone wearing that hat who thinks Trump has done anything to protect against IP theft from China is an idiot, along with anyone who truly believes in the second amendment.

    So yeah, I think anyone wearing that hat is either a really dumb person or really believes in keeping the Mexicans and Muslims out. Or both.
     
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    *citation needed*

    Again, you're confusing local and state level politics with national.

    The "Bathroom Bill" wasn't federal.
     
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    Details don't matter as much as perceptions anymore.

    Just watch.

    It's one of the big guns in reserve. They'll bring it out front and center for an impeachment or an election.
     
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    That still doesn't mean it'll have much of an affect.

    Again, fewer and fewer voters put LGBT rights as the primary issue they vote on, at least those who don't specifically fall under that umbrella.

    If it was such an issue, we'd likely see it brought up more and it certainly would have had a larger impact in the most recent round of elections.
     
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    It's this tactical thinking and short-termism that's gotten the Dems so far up sh!t creek and us in this lovely here and now in the first place.
     
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    There's nothing short term about following a decades long, continuing trend.

    A lot of factors lead to where we are now, the Dems dragging themselves further to the right in response to the Tea Party and HFC causing significant rifts in the party is definitely a factor.
     
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    I wasn’t referring to you at all, but rather this:

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    Oh i thought you were because coincidentally I liked someone's post right before ypu said that. My bad
     
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    Well Drew used the word racist. Nice switcheroo you tried there. Even then, neither are considered a race. If blonde haired, blue eyed swedes were flying to Mexico to sneak through the border, thats not welcome one bit by any means either.

    Inb4 talk of a lack of want for a northern border......one step at a time my friend. But, did you just speak for Drew?
     
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    Precisely

    Real world politics is full of compromises. Ideals without common sense or long term planning are downright dangerous.


    PS and btw, if everyone else has an inalienable right to be the way they want to be, THEN SO DO BIGOTS.
     
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