US Political Discussion: Biden/Harris Edition (Rules in OP)

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  1. Mboogie7

    Mboogie7 SS.org Regular

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    Last time I checked, foot locker wasn’t the very foundation that the USA was built on. Rioting and looting suck, yeah, but rioting and breaking into the fucking capitol because you can’t accept the election results is treason. That kind of behavior cannot be tolerated whatsoever.
     
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    Randy Taste the Rainbow™ Super Moderator

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    That was the joke I was thinking, then I mentioned it to a friend of mine that said his family are MAGA and they're also all organic people because of GMO conspiracies. So there's overlap.
     
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    BLM occupied and destroyed police stations, city blocks, and damaged federal building. Killed more people and hurt more police officers. But, here you all are. Defending it because what happened in DC were Trump supporters, or claimed to be. Its just laughable.
     
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    Please. Democrats have spent the last for years trying to overturn 2016. Trump on his way out the door and they are still acting like lunatics.
     
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    This is amazing lol
     
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    I think we are getting carried away with all this rhetoric about rioting and treason. Killing capitol police and invading the capitol building and hunting for the vice president and house speaker in order to execute them because free and fair elections didnt go the way Trump supporters hoped is not as big a deal as we are making it out to be. Let us remember that taking a knee before the start of a football game is the true enemy of democracy and the founding principles of this nation.
     
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    I always wanted to do a GMO and organic taste test to see how different they are, but then I figured that I’ve probably had GMO food without knowing it was a GMO, and thus my idea I thought was cool went down the drain.
     
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    Four* and the logic behind your argument (I’m assuming that’s what you’re making here) is flawed. What happened last week was T R E A S O N.
     
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    What specific actions did democrats take to overturn the election? Yes they did argue that someone who lost the popular vote hy 3 million votes exposes a flaw in the electoral college and they were legitimately concerned that Trump is beholden to Putin but when did they try and undo the election?
     
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    groverj3 Bioinformagician

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    I'm a biologist and worked in plant genetics for my PhD. Organics can be GMOs. But you also shouldn't care because they're fine to eat. You've definitely eaten GMOs.

    Also, all domesticated crops are "genetically modified" through selective breeding. So, basically, GMO fear is people not understanding science. Inserting a gene from one species into another results in the gene functioning the same way it did in the original species, or making the predicted protein/whatever. The fact that we know how genetics works means that we know exactly what products a gene will make when inserted into an organism.

    The more you know, haha.
     
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    groverj3 Bioinformagician

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    Anti-GMO sentiment definitely has overlap on both the left and right for some similar but also different reasons. Some leftists I know don't like that they're patented and this is an economic issue. Or, they don't like that they aren't "natural" (as opposed to selective breeding changing lots of genes, rather than transgenic plants having just a single or few genes specifically altered).

    Right wingers seem to dislike GMOs mostly because they're more anti-intellectual and "how dare those elitist scientists change God's food." There is some crunchiness there in the libertarian crowd though objecting to it being "unnatural" as well.
     
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    100 percent less treasonous
     
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    groverj3 Bioinformagician

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    For a second there I was able to ignore the dumpster fire to teach a science lesson. Thanks, guys!
     
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    Unironically equating staging a would-be coup, attempting to kidnap and overthrow elected officials, etc because of losing a (legitimate) democratic election and social conventions against saying the quiet part louder to people responding to centuries of systematic oppression and injustice is a great example of what I was talking about re: dealing with post-truth ideologies.

    Especially when a substantial portion of the violence at protests in the past year was driven by right-wing instigators and/or unrelated opportunists, as documented by both police and the FBI. Likewise how there is a stark, well-documented difference in how police forces handle protests based on the ideologies represented, and how this creates an escalating cycle of violence against left-leaning protests like the BLM movement (which are overwhelmingly peaceful, more than 90% - but the peaceful ones don't reach mainstream media). Decoupling cause from effect when talking about what violence has occurred just drives the point home further.

    If facts and logic were enough, I wouldn't even need to point this out - I could just point to any half-decent US history book. Even whitewashed as those are, it'd make the point for me.
     
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    I feel like I'm talking to a CNN panel here. Fuck.....
     
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    sure fuck

    riots protesting systematic police brutality and racism cool

    riots protesting a legal election. not cool. literally the uncoolest thing you can do

    and ya you can get away with a lot if you aren't an actual neo nazi

    because you aren't A FUCKING NAZI

    fuck it dude is this shit hard to understand.
     
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    oh you mean like a panel of college educated people instead of your usual redneck backyard discussion?

    sorry.
     
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    So now you're assuming the color of my neck?
     
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    The world's a bit different when you aren't in a Parler/Facebook right wing echo chamber.
     
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    I love when all the higher educated folks land in threads. I consider myself fairly intelligent but it's cool getting to see and converse with people who end up being experts on particular topics.
     
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