US Political Discussion: Biden/Harris Edition (Rules in OP)

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  1. fantom

    fantom Misses his 6 strings

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    The "independent" committee here is congress or his cabinet (impeachment vs 25th amendment). As far as crimes, the independent committee is the court and jurors. Trump has wasted his presidency saying the court can't do anything to a sitting president and he is trying to pardon himself so the can't to anything to him as a citizen afterwards. It really comes to congress and his cabinet taking action.
     
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    They'll all be too short of breath to run away from anybody in like 5 days anyway, shouldn't be a big deal
     
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    I'm honestly not surprised lol
     
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    What a dumbass.
     
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    USMarine75 The man who is tired of the anus is tired of life Contributor

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    Well yeah that we can definitely agree on :lol:
     
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    lurè Fake Shredder

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    "Something wicked this way comes"

    Yup, it's the FBI
     
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    bostjan MicroMetal Contributor

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    I didn't even know Iced Earth was political. They were supposed to be working on their comeback album right now anyway. I'm guessing that's either cancelled or delayed.

    I actually had a few of their CD's (and Demons and Wizards) and jammed to those a lot in my 20's.

    And I'm not going to excuse what Jon Schaffer did, since it was bad and wrong, but it's not like he tried to order a hit on somebody (As I Lay Dying or AC/DC) or did horrifying kid stuff (Lostprophets).

    Being part of a riot is violence, which I do not condone at all, but it could be violence by association. I'll just try to ignore the fact that this happened and assume that he might just be a bonehead instead of assuming the worst, that he's a nazi or white supremicist or whatever. It'll probably all come out eventually, though. :(
     
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    yeah, other musicians have done worse things that people ignore. Didn't the lead singer of As I Lay Dying try to order a hit on his wife?
     
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    You mean ignored in that Tim Lambesis spent two years in prison? Or how the singer of LostProphets was incarcerated for at least 14 years? When people break the law, or participate in an armed insurrection, they need to be punished. If this idiot from Iced Earth is found guilty, he deserves whatever punishment is given.

    We can go back historically, and a lot of famous musicians and actors were basically able to get away with everything. Times are different now, thankfully.
     
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    bostjan MicroMetal Contributor

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    Yeah, I got my controversies confused. It was Tim Lambesis or however your spell it who solicited murder.
     
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    X1X SS.org Regular

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    I guess there's no such thing as bad publicity since I got an Iced Earth video recommended to me by youtube just now. I don't remember ever listening to them...
     
  12. groverj3

    groverj3 Bioinformagician

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    Hope he enjoys writing his next album with his band mates scatting riffs in short snippets through a prison phone.

    Dude literally broke into the capitol during an armed insurrection. Throw him in prison so he can do his Infowars shit there.

    I'll never buy another Iced Earth album. They were one of my favorite bands when I was getting into music, but I'm not separating the art from his actions here. Just can't do it. This isn't like Dave Mustaine just saying crazy shit and being an asshole. Schaffer literally participated in an armed uprising where people died.

    Good riddance. He can rot in prison.
     
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    Probably true.
    I'd say G'n'R would have never covered a Charles Manson song had Manson never solicited/committed murder. Although, covering that song probably didn't have much of a positive impact on Axl's career.
     
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  14. HeHasTheJazzHands

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    Most bad publicity doesn't involve a coup nor your bandleader being a person of interest. :lol:

    Also before anyone else brings up Stu

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    groverj3 Bioinformagician

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    Welp, I guess Canadians aren't immune from fascist thinking.

    Tim Owens also has unfortunate opinions.
     
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    Necris Bonitis.

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    I saw an op-ed declaring "Trump's spell seems to have broken" and I'm wondering why some people are committed to interpreting the storming of the capitol, and other capitol buildings around the country as the last gasp of this movement.

    In no uncertain terms a portion of Trump's base have radicalized, some during his time in office, some prior to his time in office, and they're ripe for recruitment by far-right extremist groups. One major problem post-Trump is the question of how to deradicalize these people in the midst of ongoing messaging about "the culture war" and the existential threat to America that Democrats and anyone to the left of the Republican party pose. If even 0.25% of Trump's voters have radicalized to the degree that the people who stormed the capital did that's a pool of nearly more than 100,000 people upon whom the hard work has already been mostly done.

    Obviously not all of these people, or even the majority, will actually become actively involved in terrorism or much beyond idiotic facebook ranting, but there's still a genuine problem we're facing going forward, and it's arguably one whose potential outcomes worsen significantly if real consequences fail to materialize for what happened at the capitol.
     
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    This has to be fake news. Tucker Carlson is saying it is Antifa pretending to be Iced Earth pretending to be Trump supporters
     
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    The hours close at hand
    We'll make our final stand
    Justice shall be done
    Nowhere to run

    True evil broods in you
    You're just a brainwashed fool
    The coward close that hides
    Spewing forth his lies

    Revenge is not justice
    It's the reckoning
    This time it's for blood
    Don't tread on me

    :usa:
     
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    Canada has their own problems from what I can tell. Plus the fact that Jon's apparently gotten crazier and crazier and probably badgered on Stu.

    Ripper posted on instagram he claims that he never talked politics with Jon, and I'm calling bullshit. :lol:
     
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