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Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by Spaced Out Ace, Jun 22, 2020.
ENGL Powerball 2 gets lost in the mix....
The guy behind Klon, Bill Finnegan, actually hates all the hype too. It's lead to a lot of drama for him over the years, especially from halfwits who think he's the cause of all this, not pedal collectors playing the dick measuring game.
I'm partial to Jazz bass for fingerstyle and slap, but I love the way a P bass sounds with a pick (so yeah, also looking forward to new Luna Sea material)
Horse shit. If he hated it so much, he wouldn't offer new Klon Centaurs for the same price as the scalpers.
Also: He'd sell more at a more reasonable price, likely being able to give more money to charity, which if memory serves, is why he was selling new Centaurs. Doing so would also put a stop to the scalpers, or at the very least, make them come back to low earth orbit.
I realize "klones" exist out there by many companies at various price points. Even at the reduced price of a Klone vs the originals, I'd rather buy something else because I just think they sound boring. Overall I prefer amp-voiced-drive or preamp type pedals over the clipping diodes kind of overdrive.
I don't usually buy the reluctance of success and notoriety thing, I'm sure he's doing quite well financially these days.
Maybe that's what the vintage pedal thing is all about? Just a dick measuring contest fueled by money? I do, however, realize there are some pro players that swear by certain vintage pedals because they have "that thing" they want. The guitarist for Radiohead, for example, still uses the old giant Memory Man pedal that runs on 18v power. He calls it "the god pedal."
You can get a new KTR for like $250...if you can find it in stock.
Not sure why he has to give them away.
$400 is giving them away for a guy claiming that it "wasn't of his making"?
I don't recall him ever saying he hated the success, just the drama. For awhile folks were practically stalking him.
If folks are going to pay it, why not?
And they start at ~$250.
Ok that's definitely where things get weird and ridiculous for someone who's just trying to run a business, I'll give him that.
I'm not talking about KTRs.
What's the difference?
It's practically the same thing, it's just made to be eaiser to mass produce and be more user friendly (smaller footprint, standard power, etc.).
The only folks really sweating the difference are the folks who really want to spend the money.
There are tons of KTR vs Centaur debates and videos accross the internet, having played both right next to each other, the difference is negligible at best. Many agree. Some don't.
ESP makes LTD EC1000s as more affordable Eclipses. Klon makes the KTR as a more affordable Centaur.
Not sure why you have such a rage boner for these.
Yeah...seems to be the case.
Engls seem to sound great on their own but in a band context they don't come off as present and meaty.
Even when they sound good in a band mix, they seem to sound even better by themselves. I dunno.
As much as I hate Engls..the Engl amp sims always sound great. I recorded most of my last album with them. Funny how that goes
I love how the best argument for big heavy amps is that they're MANLY and SERIOUS BUSINESS.
Call it a whole unpopular opinion on it's own:
People's gear choices get way too tied up in ego. Your stuff is not who you are. It's just stuff.
Ego is the entire point of any gear.
Why do you need a nice looking guitar? Why does it need to have various specs? Why anything?
Surely we can pretend it's for tonal reasons but most of that is bullshit. We want nice things to fulfill the ego.
Even the tones we chase are down to what satisfies the ego.
Your stuf IS who you are...it tells a lot about you.
Mind you that's not a justification for the mini vs full size amp debate..I'm just saying in general
that string spacing!!
It's the whole "you can tell a lot by a person's shoes" thing. I think it's BS. I can change my shoes in 10 seconds, but I'm not a different person for doing so.
I don't become a different person when I play a different guitar. A person isn't defined by the brands they like or can afford.
Your stuff is symbolic of your tastes and your means, but it isn't anything more than that.
It's Steve DiGiorgio. Dudes so fucking good that I think he can get away with anything.
You stuff can be symbolic of your tastes, attitudes, mindset, means, genre of music, etc. Your stuff says a lot about you. People's choices signal who they are.