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For me, one of the reasons fender gets a pass is that they did actually run Jackson, Charvel, and EVH well.
It's easy to give them a pass for a variety of reasons. First and foremost because Fender evidently isn't as shitty. Gibson is literally everything that's wrong with the industry. Dragging Fender into this is textbook whataboutism.
 

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Might actually get banned for this opinion so here goes:

Ibanez guitars, particularly RGs, are at best boring and uninspired. They look neither classic nor modern and all of them look the same, regardless of 6 or 7 string. The headstock is barely passable when reversed and offensively plain when it's not.

"Oh hey this is my Ibanez RG589YSIUOHNFSDF78 it has a super thin neck and... no other defining features" - Comments of the completely deranged.

Also the notion of systematically causing permanent wrist damage just to harp on about flat and thin necks in some cult-like circle jerk shows you have about as much personality as your boring guitar.

Sure, tell me about the value of your Prestige RG234872Y3RN9EGIE because aside from the thin neck that is all there is to say. I bet it's as interesting as your equally boring and 'great value' Android phone that you definitely have.
I'm on the "RGs suck train" for sure

but they have the Ibanez tremolos, including the lo-pro edge... a trem so vastly, infinitely superior to the Floyd Rose the Floyd shoulda died off overnight upon its release, forever relegated to the dustbin of history. Ibanez should have taken that entire market over so the big selling point today on a guitar would be an "Original Ibanez Bridge" and OFRs would be bizarre, inferior bridges only used by total fuckin weirdos ... just like Kahlers

but I think Ibanez knows this and that's why they never licensed their trems out. Nobody would actually play an Ibanez guitar if they could have had, say, a Jackson Soloist with a lo-pro edge instead
 

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yeah dude RGs are boring ass guitars

it's just that the headless offset fuckburst browneye maple burl monstrosities are out on the front lines of ugly, over-appreciated guitars soaking up all of the hate, leaving none left for the poor RG whose only sin was to be completely uninspired
 
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Hot take as an Ibanez fan: The Edge/Lo-Pro are no better than an OFR or Schaller or whatever else and while the arm system is convenient and feels nice, it's far worse in terms of maintenance (Fuck those nylon bushings and fuck tightening the arm holder). I think the reason that it gained this mythical status was because it was used in relatively cheap guitars (Just buy a used MIJ/Prestige!) in an era of licensed trapezoidal bad time bridges. Regarding the stud locks, they're great to have but my 2 bridges without them (FR-1000 & Edge Pro) are completely fine so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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It's easy to give them a pass for a variety of reasons. First and foremost because Fender evidently isn't as shitty. Gibson is literally everything that's wrong with the industry. Dragging Fender into this is textbook whataboutism.
So? It is the unpopular opinions thread. Whataboutism is half the thread.
 

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It's easy to give them a pass for a variety of reasons. First and foremost because Fender evidently isn't as shitty. Gibson is literally everything that's wrong with the industry. Dragging Fender into this is textbook whataboutism.
Define "evidently"
 

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Even as an Ibanez fanboy, i have to say I also really dont like RGs anymore. On top of losing interest in Wizard necks, I just cant seem to get one that sounds good acoustically.

Amplified is fine, but i spend way more time without it. And I've had a lot of the glory days guitars around. The RG760 and the RGT3120 tie for the worst acoustic tone. I've had way better luck with S, R, and P models.

The fine tuners are the one true savior of the Edge bridges. 30 years old and turn like butter. The finish wears fast, the knife edges are (at least used to be) hard to get, and the arm sucks. Plus no one ever knows how to set it up correctly. And do the locking studs actually do anything? Theres nearly 200 pounds of pull shoving the studs in place. I think its just another thing that people break because they dont know about Ibanez nonsense :lol:
 

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Truss rod covers are ugly. Matching them to the headstock finish doesn't help.
 

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Hot take as an Ibanez fan: The Edge/Lo-Pro are no better than an OFR or Schaller or whatever else and while the arm system is convenient and feels nice, it's far worse in terms of maintenance (Fuck those nylon bushings and fuck tightening the arm holder). I think the reason that it gained this mythical status was because it was used in relatively cheap guitars (Just buy a used MIJ/Prestige!) in an era of licensed trapezoidal bad time bridges. Regarding the stud locks, they're great to have but my 2 bridges without them (FR-1000 & Edge Pro) are completely fine so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nope

OFR puts the fine tuners with their stupid sharp edges and rough knurling right where your hand has to go. Ibanez is the only company with the good sense to tuck them way down out of the way and give you the ideal bridge surface: totally flat.
 

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Everyone is so worried about what's "best" that they completely lose the plot.

There is no "best" trem, there are tons of trems with various pros and cons and depending on resources and context and experience and preference, one could be more desirable to a particular player.

Same for just about everything.
 

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nope

OFR puts the fine tuners with their stupid sharp edges and rough knurling right where your hand has to go. Ibanez is the only company with the good sense to tuck them way down out of the way and give you the ideal bridge surface: totally flat.

I guess it's just how I play but I've never had issues hitting the fine tuners with my picking hand, which is probably why I have no preference between all the styles.
 

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I've got a couple bridges that are extremely "comfortable" in that there's almost no way to know where your right hand is relative to the bridge, making fine adjustments to palm muting technique more difficult. So I'm with Max re pros/cons.
 
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