Tim Henson(Polyphia) shows off his studio

[sakeido]

This guy is just every other tiktoker/instagrammer; if you dont like that culture, you probably won't like him.

If you couldn't care less about that culture, you probably couldn't care less about his studio or his music in general.

Is just another video of someone famous flexing with the stuff he has acquired for the sake of getting likes and stuff, like the majority of people do on social media. People are drove crazy by the fact that he plays guitar, but it's just another tool that he uses for his own image.

every other tiktokker can write & rip on guitar like this and do songs with Steve Vai? ok pal

somehow you've managed to sound the most jealous of everybody in the thread, by far

Spotify streams is just an indicator and actually not a good one as you can easily manipulate by bots. The real comparison is on the live performances where these bands you say have less streams than Polyphia, play arenas while Polyphia play the same place like Intervals and Monuments. I checked their tour page, most of the clubs are in the 700-800 capacity clubs. These are the hard numbers. Not spotify streams. I m not saying they are not successful, just not as people think they are. Your points just prove that.


well they play the same venues and festivals slots with their peers like Periphery, Intervals, Monuments, Plini etc. Go to setlist and check it yourself. So doing well for a mid level touring band playing in mid clubs? Def yes. Killing it? Not really.

you skipped right over the fact, if their tour sold out way before it started they didn't book big enough venues... Intervals is a peer of fuckin Polyphia? No. In comparison, practically no one listens to them. You can take all four of those bands and add them together and they still get less plays. Polyphia bots all their songs and videos?? welcome to my block list, that's just too stupid

 

[mehegama]

every other tiktokker can write & rip on guitar like this and do songs with Steve Vai? ok pal

somehow you've managed to sound the most jealous of everybody in the thread, by far

you skipped right over the fact, if their tour sold out way before it started they didn't book big enough venues... Intervals is a peer of fuckin Polyphia? No. In comparison, practically no one listens to them. You can take all four of those bands and add them together and they still get less plays. Polyphia bots all their songs and videos?? welcome to my block list, that's just too stupid

You know you can debate something without being an arrogant brat that calls names and thinks that knows everything. Let's take it from the beginning:

1. The tour is not sold out. Some venues indeed are but even if it is, we are talking about 700-800 capacity venues. Is that hugely successful? Of course it is. But to call this a "killing" is a bit far fetched. It just confirms my point that their success is exaggerated online.
2. You keep referring to spotify streams, that is not a good indicator of how succesful someone is. It can be easily manipulated by the use of bots. What is it in this sentence that you do not understand? Of course they could use bot if they wanted, why do you reject it, and how would you know if they did, in the first place?. Loads of people do this.
3. Intervals absolutely are peers of Polyphia. Let's take as a representative example London and New York. Both bands played the exact same venues in both cities on their latest visits. O2 Islington in London and Iriving Plaza and Gramercy Theater in New York. Now, maybe Polyphia sold more tickets, I don't know, but playing the exact same venues, is a pretty good indicator of the size of the crowds these bands attract. But yeah, I forgot, Spotify, that you can buy monthly listeners with the use of bots, is a better reference.

You seem extremely sensitive with the subject, when all i said is that they make most of their money via merch/endorsements and that their online perceived success is not reflecting their real popularity.
You need to chill a bit.

 

[GunpointMetal]

You know you can debate something without being an arrogant brat that calls names and thinks that knows everything. Let's take it from the beginning:

1. The tour is not sold out. Some venues indeed are but even if it is, we are talking about 700-800 capacity venues. Is that hugely successful? Of course it is. But to call this a "killing" is a bit far fetched. It just confirms my point that their success is exaggerated online.
2. You keep referring to spotify streams, that is not a good indicator of how succesful someone is. It can be easily manipulated by the use of bots. What is it in this sentence that you do not understand? Of course they could use bot if they wanted, why do you reject it, and how would you know if they did, in the first place?. Loads of people do this.
3. Intervals absolutely are peers of Polyphia. Let's take as a representative example London and New York. Both bands played the exact same venues in both cities on their latest visits. O2 Islington in London and Iriving Plaza and Gramercy Theater in New York. Now, maybe Polyphia sold more tickets, I don't know, but playing the exact same venues, is a pretty good indicator of the size of the crowds these bands attract. But yeah, I forgot, Spotify, that you can buy monthly listeners with the use of bots, is a better reference.

You seem extremely sensitive with the subject, when all i said is that they make most of their money via merch/endorsements and that their online perceived success is not reflecting their real popularity.
You need to chill a bit.

If my shitty mathcore band sold out a couple of 800 cap venues I would tell people we were killing it. You're trying to make this about comparing them to legacy acts and acts that sell out stadiums, which is a dumb argument.

 

[Emperoff]

Guess I wasn't late after all

 

[Emperor Guillotine]

If my shitty matchore band sold out a couple of 800 cap venues I would tell people we were killing it.

 

[MetalDestroyer]

Some venues indeed are but even if it is, we are talking about 700-800 capacity venues. Is that hugely successful? Of course it is. But to call this a "killing" is a bit far fetched. It just confirms my point that their success is exaggerated online.

Just checking in. Doing a quick check here. Are you aware that venues are booked before tickets go on sale?

I don't know what their true ticket sale capacity is, but if they're selling out 800 person venues does that not mean that they could/should have booked larger venues if they could have seen into the future?

 

[GunpointMetal]

I can count, I can't spell.

 

[mehegama]

If my shitty mathcore band sold out a couple of 800 cap venues I would tell people we were killing it. You're trying to make this about comparing them to legacy acts and acts that sell out stadiums, which is a dumb argument.

Just checking in. Doing a quick check here. Are you aware that venues are booked before tickets go on sale?

I don't know what their true ticket sale capacity is, but if they're selling out 800 person venues does that not mean that they could/should have booked larger venues if they could have seen into the future?

Ok just to be clear. I m not saying they are not successful nor I compare them to Metallica, I just think playing at 800 capacity clubs, is not enough to make a living out of it, thus not "killing it". In these very venues i mentioned, I have seen many non-legacy/post 2000 bands, selling them out, like Insomnium, Equilibrium, Eluveitie, Wintersun (yep!!) and others, that I know for a fact these people all have day jobs. Except for Jari that spends the half million dollars from the crowdfunding.

So at this point we are talking semantics. We agree they are successful, maybe disagree on the level of success, which was basically the reason in my opinion, Tim did a commercial about his home studio.

 

[aesthyrian]

Can someone explain what this means

I will say I went to their merch store expecting something dreadful but I thought those designs looked pretty ok actually! A little too much "metal black" maybe but some white shirts also and even a pale purple hoodie that I quite liked. And the designs struck a good balance between "too much" and "too boring". When I design merch I might do it something like this but with more different colors.

I dunno, shit like "Anti Polyphia Polyphia Club" hoodies that are intentionally oversized. And drops... well, they hype up their merch with a release date and a "limited run" so your FOMO gets the best of you and you must buy the new merch ASAP because it's the only chance you'll ever get! It's a pretty common marketing tactic but not as commonly used in the metal/guitar space. The most "hype" merch is reserved for the drops.

Good for them.

 

[gabito]

They're good at marketing. They know what they're doing.

That's why they can keep playing for not-so-big crowds and still make a living out of music related activities (or at least make some money out of it).

Also that's why they're well known among a certain demographic (the Instagram / TikTok crowd, I suppose), even if said demographic doesn't go to their concerts because they don't like leaving their homes, or only enjoy looking at their phones, or because they're too far away from said concerts.

People above a certain age (like myself) will never understand it, or know how to do it, or will look tremendously ridiculous if they try to do what they do. They are selling a product (in fact, several products), and we are not their target audience. Even if we like their music, which is the thing they can't sell. Like everyone else.

 

[Mboogie7]

Who would’ve thought Tim simply existing would cause so much heart burn?

I liked their older material, don’t really jive with the newer but who gives a shit? Art is subjective. If one doesn’t like them, move along and listen to something you enjoy. Weird concept, I know.

 

[lurè]

every other tiktokker can write & rip on guitar like this and do songs with Steve Vai? ok pal

somehow you've managed to sound the most jealous of everybody in the thread, by far

What part of me not giving a shit about Tim or Polyphia did you miss?
I said they totally embrace the modern social media colture and music is just a condiment that supports it.

The video with Vai is more a marketing move from Steve trying to get some recognition among younger folks.

 

[Dr. Caligari]

I dunno, shit like "Anti Polyphia Polyphia Club" hoodies that are intentionally oversized. And drops... well, they hype up their merch with a release date and a "limited run" so your FOMO gets the best of you and you must buy the new merch ASAP because it's the only chance you'll ever get! It's a pretty common marketing tactic but not as commonly used in the metal/guitar space. The most "hype" merch is reserved for the drops.

Good for them.

Ok that does sound a bit silly but the concept of limited releases sounds smart. You get more variety too with more releases so everybody could find something they like.

 

[Pietjepieter]

Wow this thread is super cool, I am not a polyphia fan and I hate clean studio's but damn....

Anyway people who shred are sexy and Tim Henson defiantly shreds....

 

[tedtan]

Ok that does sound a bit silly but the concept of limited releases sounds smart. You get more variety too with more releases so everybody could find something they like.

While that is true, it is also offset by the added design costs of having to male multiple designs plus the higher per unit cost of making merch items in smaller quantities, and those added costs go to the graphic designer and merch manufacturer, not the band.

 

[Dr. Caligari]

While that is true, it is also offset by the added design costs of having to male multiple designs plus the higher per unit cost of making merch items in smaller quantities, and those added costs go to the graphic designer and merch manufacturer, not the band.

Yeah good points. I think it'd be worth it though. Like, having some really sweet, quality merch even if it ends up being a bit more expensive. I'd prefer that personally both as an artist and consumer. I've been unimpressed with merch I've bought in the past quality and design wise and started buying higher quality "regular" clothes instead.

 

[Asdrael]

Shoutout to my Youtube feed for this.



Shootout to the slippers too.

And shootout to myself for bringing back the dead.

 

[Carrion Rocket]

Again. Just MTV Cribs energy.

 

[Emperoff]

Shoutout to my Youtube feed for this.



Shootout to the slippers too.

And shootout to myself for bringing back the dead.

That video is obviously fake. Nobody enters a garage dressed all in white and comes out unstained

 

[sakeido]

That video is obviously fake. Nobody enters a garage dressed all in white and comes out unstained

he uses 3M Scotchgard as body spray