Tigran Hamasyan - Jazz +world music +meshuggah +fempop

Discussion in 'General Music Discussion' started by wankerness, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. TheHandOfStone

    TheHandOfStone E♭M7(♭5)

    Messages:
    1,822
    Likes Received:
    176
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Location:
    Eastern PA
    American release of Luys i Luso was 2 days ago. I'm quite enjoying it although it's obviously nothing like his usual output. There are still shades of jazz underneath the layered voices, which are beautiful in their own right.

    Does anyone have translations for the song titles? Google Translate is being unusually unhelpful lol.
     
  2. wankerness

    wankerness SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    5,781
    Likes Received:
    1,087
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2012
    Location:
    WI
    Yeah, google translate can't do armenian unless you can find it in armenian alphabet, so the phonetic deals on this Tigran album are non-translatable. You can sometimes translate it by searching for one of the titles, finding a page that's mostly in armenian, and then doing translate on THAT after figuring out which section of it corresponds to the phonetic version. :p For example, run google translate on this page:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEFn-903EYY

    As far as I can tell, these are the titles. You can find all of them via google-fu (it's faster if you exclude "Tigran" from the search results). Some of them turned up on compilations of Armenian folk music which were kind enough to list the english title in the track name on itunes, for example. The only one I'm not sure on is the second there. I don't have the actual CD yet, but it very possibly says in the booklet what the translations are!

    1. Ov Zarmanali 1 (O great mystery)
    2. Ankanim araji Qo (Literal translation seems to be "Fall before you/thee," frequently labelled as "Hymn of Repentance")
    3. Ov Zarmanali 2
    4. Hayrapetakan Maghterg 1 (Pontifical Hymn)
    5. Bazum en Qo gtutyunqd (Where are you my mother) (lyrics here)
    6. Nor Tsaghik (new flower)
    7. Hayrapetakan Maghterg 2
    8. Hayrapetakan Maghterg 3
    9. Havoun Havoun (about the bird) [Not sure how that translation works, but I found it translated as that in multiple sources]
    10. Voghormea indz Astvats (show mercy on me god)
    11. Sirt im Sasani 1 (my heart trembles)
    12. Surb Astvats (holy god)
    13. Sirt im Sasani 2
    14. Orhnyal e Astvats (blessed be god)
     
  3. TheHandOfStone

    TheHandOfStone E♭M7(♭5)

    Messages:
    1,822
    Likes Received:
    176
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Location:
    Eastern PA
    Thank you, that's very informative. I couldn't figure out why the Armenian setting wouldn't work. I guess I'm not even good at automatic translation. :lol:
     
  4. wankerness

    wankerness SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    5,781
    Likes Received:
    1,087
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2012
    Location:
    WI
    I like this album a lot, so far I'm liking it a lot more than Mockroot, though I might not listen to it that often since it definitely isn't something you can play in your car or anything. Really moody stuff, with a ton of gorgeous harmonies. The only thing that really put me off on first listen is the poundy rhythmic bit about 2/3 through Nor Tsaghik, I guess he just couldn't resist having at least one part like that on one of his albums! There's a similar part towards the end of Track 10, but that one is much more integrated with the sound of the rest of the album.
     
  5. TheHandOfStone

    TheHandOfStone E♭M7(♭5)

    Messages:
    1,822
    Likes Received:
    176
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Location:
    Eastern PA
    That's funny; I'm listening to it right now and thinking "man, 6 and 10 are absolutely great, and it'd be a bummer if there'd been no pounding rhythmic parts on this album." But I admit that it is a little bit out of place. :lol:

    And this album has actually helped me to appreciate Mockroot a bit more as well. It kind of makes sense that such an austere, stripped-back album would precede something like this. Shadow Theater may have been the perfect balance, but his two most recent releases are the absolute extremes of his style.
     
  6. Slunk Dragon

    Slunk Dragon Gear Nerder

    Messages:
    1,448
    Likes Received:
    128
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2011
    Location:
    Harper Woods, MI


    I haven't seen this vid around, but MY GOD, that handle on rhythm is just too nutty for proper words. I freaking love it!!!
     
  7. jonajon91

    jonajon91 New Picture

    Messages:
    2,194
    Likes Received:
    154
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Good god that guitarist has chops.
     
  8. wankerness

    wankerness SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    5,781
    Likes Received:
    1,087
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2012
    Location:
    WI
    The booklet has translations for all titles and lyrics. Some of them I was pretty close with on my googling, others were way off!

    1. Ov Zarmanali 1 O this amazing and great mystery
    2. Ankanim araji Qo I kneel before you
    3. Ov Zarmanali 2
    4. Hayrapetakan Maghterg 1 patriarchal ode
    5. Bazum en Qo gtutyunqd your mercy is boundless
    6. Nor Tsaghik new flower
    7. Hayrapetakan Maghterg 2
    8. Hayrapetakan Maghterg 3
    9. Havoun Havoun the bird, the bird was awake
    10. Voghormea indz Astvats god have mercy upon me
    11. Sirt im Sasani 1 my heart is trembling
    12. Surb Astvats holy god
    13. Sirt im Sasani 2
    14. Orhnyal e Astvats blessed is god!
     
  9. Apatheosis

    Apatheosis ཨོཾ་མ་ཎི་པདྨེ་ཧཱུྃ

    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    49
    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
  10. bazdesh

    bazdesh Member

    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Location:
    Czech Republic
  11. Apatheosis

    Apatheosis ཨོཾ་མ་ཎི་པདྨེ་ཧཱུྃ

    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    49
    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
  12. jonajon91

    jonajon91 New Picture

    Messages:
    2,194
    Likes Received:
    154
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Location:
    Derbyshire
    I think the Shadow theater concert has been taken of YouTube, I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have it or know where I can get hold of it?
     
  13. bazdesh

    bazdesh Member

    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Location:
    Czech Republic
  14. TheHandOfStone

    TheHandOfStone E♭M7(♭5)

    Messages:
    1,822
    Likes Received:
    176
    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Location:
    Eastern PA
    EDIT: This post used to include a video of Tosin Abasi playing along to a song off of Mockroot. He deleted it. :wallbash:
     
  15. MattHood0

    MattHood0 Member

    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2015
    Location:
    Australia
    If anyone's interested, I transcribed the piano for The Grid, including the solo. Enjoy!
     

    Attached Files:

  16. Guthrielicious

    Guthrielicious SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    129
    Likes Received:
    7
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2013
    Location:
    Denmark
    Always! I love transcriptions of Tigran as well as transcribing his stuff myself. Inspiring many of his compositions really.

    Do you have it in midi? or did it go straight on paper? :)
     
  17. jonajon91

    jonajon91 New Picture

    Messages:
    2,194
    Likes Received:
    154
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2012
    Location:
    Derbyshire
    It's a Christmas miracle! It boggles my mind that people can transpose music like this, it just flies by so fast.
     
  18. wankerness

    wankerness SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    5,781
    Likes Received:
    1,087
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2012
    Location:
    WI
    Looks like Finale or Sibelius. It's just a pain in the butt to upload files that aren't one of the handful approved as attachments on this site.
     
  19. AugmentedFourth

    AugmentedFourth X:1 K:C [c^f]|

    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    70
    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2011
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Personally, I typically don't upload to the site, I just use mediafire.

    Transcription looks great though. Thanks for the upload, man.
     
  20. AngstRiddenDreams

    AngstRiddenDreams Filthy Casual

    Messages:
    3,504
    Likes Received:
    391
    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2011
    Location:
    Seattle
    The wub wub wub's killed me :lol:
     

Share This Page