Thunderous amp hunting?

Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by Rossness, Dec 28, 2019.

  1. wakjob

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    Damn...I think I've found someone as picky as me! :lol:
    Hey man, I'm sure we've all been in this spot...

    I'm going to assume you've played most of those amps with an EQ in the loop? It's the best solderless mod ever.
     
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    Where do you want the thunder? Onstage, in a mix , at home? I think the 5153 is a good band choice as is the Mark 5 or Rectifier with the mark 5 eq in the loop. Your “in the mix” / on stage amp won’t sound as good at home because you need to bump mids and treble to cut through. Also if you have a shitty cab or a cab that doesn’t match well with your amp, as mentioned above, it will not sound good.
     
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    Oh, without rockstar volume?

    A fender supersonic 100.
     
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    I'd say from what you said you tried so far, unless you run any high watt high gain amp through an IR you're better of with the Kemper. You have all the options in term of amps you want plus you can play them at low volumes and sound great. I haven't played that many amps to have an informed opinion but from the ones I've tried so far the sickest and most crushing sound I've had at lower and higher volumes was the Peavey 5150II.
    But in terms of huge sounding and quite thunderous with less fizz I'd say the Randall Diavlo might suit you. It needs a bit of volume to shine but no where near rockstar volume. It's just a bit noisy when you start increasing the gain stages. And it's not too expensive.
     
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    The bands you listed mostly played modded Marshalls so have you thought about going that route ?
    Most of those were modded by Lee Jackson back then. His stuff is great for that mid to late 80's tone. I have a couple of his designed Crate Stealth heads and they are monsters. He also did the Ampeg VL series but I sold mine because I preferred the Crates. You should check them out, they are affordable and can be easily found.
     
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    I've played the Crate/ Ampeg amps. I've liked them. I think Lynch used them back in the day.
     
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    If you like the Kemper profiles of the Nitro, then it's probably worth a shot with the real amp. I had the 50w version for a while and it was killer. Definitely thunderous as far as massive, but defined bottom end response. It really fits the "Recto meets JCM800" description IME
     
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    FWIW, I have a Krankenstein Plus and it rips. It is much more balanced than the original Krankenstein, which was very boomy. Very versatile dirt channel and great clean too.

    For your use, probably not ideal, it really does need some volume to start cooking, not deafening levels, loud TV levels are where it starts to get good.
     
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    Sounds like you want a hot rodded Marshall style amp through a big bass cab.
     
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    Oh!

    Why have we not suggested the PRS MT-15? Asleep at the wheel over here.
     
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    MAJ Meadows SF on a tone quest

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    Thunderous? Like a 300W Marshall Major? LOL

    I’d wait to see how the new Fryette Deliverance II amps sound. The Mk1s are definitely thunderous and loud, plus awesome sounding amps to me. Also maybe check out the ENGL Savage Mk2. I’m never NOT an ENGL fan and that amp is just wonderous.

    But for your budget, ever consider a used Friedman? Might not be the tone you are dreaming of but you might be surprised. They just sound unreal and the BE-100, Deluxe, and JJ are winners. That’s coming from a modern & old school death metal amp addict. ENGL, KSR, Fortin, Mesa, Driftwood, Fryette, etc were all I dealt with until I looked into Friedman. The JJ with a clean boost is one of those “perfect” tones you search your whole life for. I’d give it some serious thought.
     
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    This is like trying to pick out a gf by watching tons of porn.
     
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    New day, fresh thought...

    If by "thunderous" you mean air moving speaker pump and general punchiness... the original 5153 100 watt is king of this area.

    Even a lower volumes, that amp just kicks you in the gut.
     
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    ^^^:agreed:

    The same applies to the 50-watt version, only it’s more fun to carry as well. ;). Maybe not the same degree of gut-punch at insane volumes as the 100 watt version, but certainly at gig volumes. I have lost all interest in other amps since I got one. (Well, to be fair, my 6505 still beats it in sheer ferocity, but its cleans suck). I think the EVH heads are the best all-around metal, hard rock, and clean amps for the money.
     
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    Honestly, it sounds like you just need some EQ pedals. You have tried tons of nice amps, and the tones you have mentioned are very studio tweaked. An EQ or Boost in front will let you tweak the aggression level, and an EQ in the loop will let you dial in the boom, tweak the mids, and tame the fizziness.
     
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    It is funny, because I had a VHT Deliverance, and it gave me headaches also. Honestly, I find many amps will give me headaches if the presence is turned up and makes my ear ring worse than it already does. Using an EQ pedal, and dropping the last slider on the right can help with that. I still think an EQ pedal would do you wonders. I can play my Triple Recto or JCA100HDM, and they sound OK, but kind of flat. An EQ pedal in the loop to crank the bass, scoop the mids, and drop the presence, gives that hi-fi chunky tone.

    I also have a Peavey XXX that does that. That could be a good choice also. Since it has an active EQ, it can dial in more extreme EQ curves than a typical amp.
     
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