Ah okay. Yeah for some people that's a selling point.
The Les Paul thread
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rokket2005
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I don't think I ever posted my lpc in here. I had been struggling with tuning issues on it since I got it, particularly on the lower strings. I was really hoping that it wasn't an issue with the headstock break since it's still secure and hasn't moved at all, but it's the only guitar I have with one so was nervous about that. I decided to mess with it today and see what I could do to help so I filed the nut a little on the low e and lowered the bridge also and it seems to have almost completely fixed the issue. I'm psyched on it cause it really is a great sounding guitar.
That's one of my favorite LPC finishes.
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So I'm a newer convert to LPCs, only getting comfortable with them in the last few years. I've jammed on them on and off in shops and/or with friend's guitars, and one thing I've consistently had an issue with is tuning. I played on a brand new white LPC in the Nashville GC last summer and the Adam Jones VOS LPC in the Tampa Sam Ash. Both awesome instruments but both had issues holding steady tuning in standard. Low E, G and B strings particularly. Both were actually pretty well set up and intonated correctly. I used to work in GC store 777, back when it had a platinum room (and we made commission), and I used to do setups on guitars on the main floor. I never had an issue with LP Standards or Studios, but some of the LPCs we had in the platinum rooms were nightmares. So much so I had to warn the international customers and they stated they always changed the tuners. This kind of thing was never happening with PRS core and Private Stock, Fender Custom Shop, among others we kept in that room.
I bought the Epiphone JC Wino right off the floor at a GC the day they hung it. Impulse buy, but damn I was surprised: it stayed in tune no matter how hard I dug into it, dropped it to D standard, dropped C, all with the same strings. Tuners were fluid to use but didn't budge after I hate them set.
Is this a consistent issue with LPCs? Most of my other instruments have quality locking tuners or a Floyd nut so I never have this problem. I'm wondering if it's also a nut issue or saddle issue. I have no problem swapping hardware but just curious how frequent this happens. Sorry if it's a n00b question.
I bought the Epiphone JC Wino right off the floor at a GC the day they hung it. Impulse buy, but damn I was surprised: it stayed in tune no matter how hard I dug into it, dropped it to D standard, dropped C, all with the same strings. Tuners were fluid to use but didn't budge after I hate them set.
Is this a consistent issue with LPCs? Most of my other instruments have quality locking tuners or a Floyd nut so I never have this problem. I'm wondering if it's also a nut issue or saddle issue. I have no problem swapping hardware but just curious how frequent this happens. Sorry if it's a n00b question.
I definitely see nitro as a positive thing with a Les Paul, but I also think aged Silverburst is one of the grossest looking finishes this side of Antigua. That said, no big loss since I don’t even like Silverburst much anyway, and I don’t typically like any super defined teardrop shaped bursts.
dmlinger
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Blasphemy! Haha
My 08 LPC Silverburst is just barely starting to turn yellow - or green as some people call it. It’s in that perfect middle stage where you can see the white binding isn’t pure white any longer.
1989-200?
Standard: 59 neck profile, 9-hole weight relief, 490/498 pickups, binding, klusons, various finishes. Eventually these got 57s, then burstbuckers.
Studio: same as above less the binding, 490/498 remain,
Custom: same as above but double bound body, ebony board, mother of pearl block inlays, split diamond logo. Non historic reissue lpc’s still come with 490/498 sets.
LPC’s werent built in the custom shop until 2004. The Gibson CS didnt officially open until 1993.
soliloquy
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As per Trogly's recent video, LPC's also gave a more aggressive weight relief system. They are usually carved out/hollow on the sides/bottom and have a solid center piece for bridge/pickup/etc to be installed. Not too different from jazz body or semihollow type guitars.
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So other than weight relief it's just aesthetic differences? That's good, I don't have to get one just yet then. You guys had me worried for a second.
Not sure what year the trogly video is focused on but they are all 9-hole unless they are the lite or axxcess model as far as ive read.
Main reason my first Gibson was a black studio with gold hardware is it was as close to an LPC as your average high schooler could get. My 96 standard was the lpc placeholder, but after my 68ri arrived I still wont sell it
tedtan
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In addition to this, a custom should have a long tenon neck joint (this shouldn’t affect the tone) and depending on the year, may have either an all mahogany body or a mahogany body with a maple cap (the 1950s Les Pauls had solid mahogany bodies; when they were reissued in 1968, they had maple caps; modern customs can have either).
Yeah current LPCs are 9 hole...
Only 57 historic reissue and probably the odd run/special order will be full mahogany. Regular LPC will all be maple cap.
tedtan
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Yeah, from their current line up. But there have also been ‘59 Black Beauty reissues and Collector’s Choice models with mahogany tops, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some others out there I’m not aware of, too.
So the limited runs I mentioned?
tedtan
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Well, yeah I guess the Collector’s Choice models would be a limited run, but I wouldn’t consider the various Black Beauties (the ‘54 and, if memory serves, a ‘59, in addition to the ‘57 you mentioned) that have been part of the standard reissue lineup over the years to be limited runs even if they’re not part of this year’s lineup.
And while I don’t have any specific knowledge of this, Gibson changes specs frequently, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve mixed in mahogany tops along with maple tops in their “regular” LPCs, too. Not to be more “authentic”, but due to production issues (e.g., they had mahogany on hand or could get it while maple was in shorter supply Or similar).
And while I don’t have any specific knowledge of this, Gibson changes specs frequently, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve mixed in mahogany tops along with maple tops in their “regular” LPCs, too. Not to be more “authentic”, but due to production issues (e.g., they had mahogany on hand or could get it while maple was in shorter supply Or similar).
dmlinger
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If it's a reissue, there are no mixing of specs...they stay true to what was released during that year. So a '68 LPC will have a mahogany body/maple top, whereas a '57 is an all mahogany body. After 1970 and into the Norlin era, shit got wild with specs and tradition was thrown to the wind.
Gibson did a lot of non-traditional things during the last several years of the Henry J era as well. Circa 2012-2019, they used a lot of different woods. They had a whole line of what they called a Classic Custom, which was essentially a dressed up Classic, or a dressed down Custom. These Classic Custom LPs had split diamond headstock inlays and multi-ply top binding, but they weren't bound on the back. They also used roasted maple fretboards on a lot of these models, and I've also seen rosewood used. Many LPCs from this era used Richlite for the fretboard.
I think the guitars from this era are pretty cool, because they ARE different. Purists have differing opinions, but I think they are rad. I'd like to own one of the goldtop Classic Customs.
soliloquy
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What are your thoughts on the Heritage guitars?
Technically speaking they are 'More Paul' than the gibsons.
I've never played one, and i have yet to come across one, but they seem interesting. Look a bit strange, but maybe they look better in person.
I also wonder if the sudden rise in 'guitars scoring/checking and aging' popularity is coming from Heritage charging more for guitars that come pre-score/checked.
sure, Gibson murphy lab do come with that, but they are a special order. Heritage is providing that on their regular models, if i'm not mistaken.
Technically speaking they are 'More Paul' than the gibsons.
I've never played one, and i have yet to come across one, but they seem interesting. Look a bit strange, but maybe they look better in person.
I also wonder if the sudden rise in 'guitars scoring/checking and aging' popularity is coming from Heritage charging more for guitars that come pre-score/checked.
sure, Gibson murphy lab do come with that, but they are a special order. Heritage is providing that on their regular models, if i'm not mistaken.
