The HAARP Machine is Back...

Discussion in 'General Music Discussion' started by musicaldeath, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. Kaura

    Kaura Squier 4 lyfe

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    I'm pretty sure it was Al who said on the Youtube comments that the idea of the vocals is to carry the listener through the song or something so that makes me think that Al had a pretty big say in how the vocals work.
     
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    This sounds like a total dick move, and probably would have been reason enough for me to walk right there (not that I'd ever end up in that position anyways, but, ya know)

    And this sounds like some of the laziest shit I've ever heard of. No wonder CoB songs always sounded cheesy AF to me.
     
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    Demiurge Intrepid Jackass

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    Sure, but he should know what else can "carry the listener" through the song: a well-planned arrangement with dynamics, ebb-and-flow, etc. Sure, we're used constant notes/constant playing for guitar, but when it's the vocals it makes one realize how lazy & grating it can be.
     
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    Kaura Squier 4 lyfe

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    Yeah, I wasn't trying to defend the vocals. They suck. I guess it's just a nice idea to have the focus on vocals but the execution just didn't work this time.
     
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    It's been said before that Al has control over the whole project. He wrote 90% of the lyrics to Disclosure as well and I couldn't imagine him wanting to give someone else that short a notice to write and record vocals to go with his vision of the music.
     
  6. lurè

    lurè Can't buy skill so I buy gear

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    This guy missed lesson 1 of "how to be in a band" course: don't be an asshole.
     
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    InCasinoOut syncopAZN

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    Tried listening to both the version with vocals, and Orbin's instrumental playthrough. Definitely sounds better without those terrible vocals that just don't stop, but man, I feel like the whole composition is meandering and going nowhere the whole time. Reminds me of when you're dicking around in Guitar Pro with no direction in mind, writing without a guitar in hand, so you end up with a weird start to a song that should probably just be deleted or left to sit unfinished forever. Except they actually recorded it and made a music video.
     
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    This. It sounds like basically two 4 second riffs repeated over the entire song. The parts in isolation are kind of neat but when repeated 1000 times it's just kind of grating and boring. Shedding was a lot cooler imo
     
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    Musiscience Hail the Ibbyborn!

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    I watched the video again with that in mind and these "golden" topless scenes now make so much more sense :lol:
     
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    :lol::lol:

    Pure comedy gold right? haha
     
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    Musiscience Hail the Ibbyborn!

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    I see what you did there haha
     
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  12. M3CHK1LLA

    M3CHK1LLA angel sword guardian

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    wow....5 days to go and only 7% (75 backers) so far.
     
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    It's a shame because I feel that a lot of people would buy the album/perks if the album was ready to release. While I do believe he'll eventually get it over the line and release it, there's no way in hell I'd give the dude money up front for a project that's been "finished" for nearly 5 years.
     
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    Velokki GAS station

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    Al Mu'min, Chris Letchford and Michael Keene should do a collab, with BRJ supplying the guitars
     
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    no Lucas Mann, no deal
     
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    I can't help but laugh at not even reaching the 10% mark of their goal.

    I would like to say that this might be a wake-up call for Al, but it won't be.
     
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    ended up w/ 8%....only 85 backers. he didn't raise enough, but he gets to keep the 2731 gbp
     
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    To me there is a massive difference between:

    a band with a concrete back track record who got dropped by their label and told they had no fans so they made a heartfelt plea to fund their new album.

    An artist who has had label support for 6 years but couldn't get an album out because of constantly firing members, cancelling tours and doing anything but recording so he's now expecting fans to replace his label.

    It's precisely the reason why the kickstarter was a failure. Fans of the band don't have faith in giving him money.
     
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    I never said that they were supposed to be treated the same, but their reasons for doing crowdfunding were the same.
    "Making a record is expensive, we don't wanna pay for it ourselves, so if you want it, pay for it for us."
    And obviously The Haack Machine was full of it, because the shit is going ahead anyways. PtH probably could have found someone else to fund their record, too, but they didn't wanna get tied to a label, so they crowd-sourced it, and I'm glad it worked out.
     
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    Don't know if anyone listens but their former Drummer/Producer Craig Reynolds has a podcast (The Downbeat) and he talks about HAARP in the last one w/ Anup Sastry. Well worth a listen for anyone interested in hearing some insider backstory. Craig recorded drums and engineered all the instruments except for guitar and when he was pushed out of the band he kept the multi-tracks until they got the advance from Sumerian to pay for his time.

    He had a few choice words to say about Mike Semesky too.
     

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