The Carvin / Kiesel thread

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  1. spudmunkey

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    Not sure if it's an option now or if it was just something special for Brody Utley (Rivers of Nihil), but the one on the right has a matte black 3-layer pickguard, like what they use for the DD4 Dustin Davidson bass model.
     
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    One on the right looks like an ESP Wade Signature
     
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    Sounds like they wont ever do a multi as the design idea is to be ultra compact. Kinda like whipped cream on a vegan cake.
     
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    Sad news, but that's what the Vaders, and CLs are for I suppose. On top of the countless other builders doing fanned headless models.

    I was just hoping to eventually have my cake and eat it too. As is the SSO policy.
     
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    That beige/yellow one looks mad! 7-string Strats look so tasty, especially the Kiesel Delos ones. Overall my favorite Strats on the market, just yumm.
     
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    agreed, so nice... when I ordered my first carvin I wanted a green flame maple top and natural Koa back and they couldnt do it so its all green... 22 years later and its such a popular option for a reason. The transparent green koa looks really cool but I dont think it improved it in any way. It is interesting how the company has evolved by caving into our pta demands. With Mark the engineering prowess really stepped up and with Jeff the focus on aesthetics and options improved significantly. I mean there are always gonna be haters but the question for any company is how connected are they to their clientel? Kiesel seems to learn with time... Gibson is the alternate example of not listening and just forging ahead with some sort of corporate market dominance agenda that didnt turn out so well.
     
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    I'm so stoked on the walnut used on the body and neck
     
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    WOw that's awesome! I haven't checked them out in a long time. It looks like they've really upped their game with this one. I wonder if they still don't offer Floyds or not. Weird they stopped that.
     
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    They still offer Floyds on quite a few models (not all, and only long as you want 6-strings). For 7 string, they have the Hipshot trem, but no Floyds.
     
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    yeah makes me so glad I went for a 1 piece neck on my vader 7 (black limba on mine) there's something about uninterrupted grain that I like and both wlnut and black limba are very stable woods that with the addition of carbon fiber rods should keep things very straight. Maple is actually the wood you gotta worry about for necks as it can have a lot of memory. That said cure/dry it and use carbon fiber like kiesel and its gonna be fi. My carvin has a 2 piece alder neck with some minor knots and wavy grain that I asked for and Ive never had to touch the truss rod in 21 years.

    simply a lovely walnut neck
     
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    Al Joseph Artist Edition SCB7 "Stealth", a limited run, available starting October 1st, $2700 (with Kiesel's Ultimate Soft case)
    https://kieselcustomguitars.myshopify.com/products/al-joseph-scb7x?variant=39563467161644

    Based on the SCB7, with a more aggressive bevel in the forearm area (but not exactly like the Aries as it stops before the upper bout), and a re-designed rear belly contour that continues around the back of the body, unlike the SCB7

    Comes standard with:
    Mahogany chambered body
    Pearl Blue paint, with clear satin finish
    Roasted flamed maple fretboard
    Flamed maple top, with a "baked" color-treatment on the bevel/edge to coordinate with the roasted fretboard
    3-piece Maple Neck
    Thin neck profile
    Neck and headstock painted to match the body
    4+3 pointed headstock
    Hipshot Trem
    Brushed Gold-covered Lithium pickups with gold pole pieces
    Gold hardware
    Gold EVO Jumbo frets
    Abalone Block inlays
    Dunlop strap locks
    Graphtech Ivory color Tusq nut
    Gold logo
    Controls: Volume, Tone, 3-way pickup toggle, with a mini switch for coil splitting on the upper bout
    Truss rod cover delete
    (I think) Trem cavity cover delete

    Al gets a couple of the details a little inaccurately in his video (the tuners aren't hipshot, on his Instagram he says it's a roasted mahogany body and neck but that could have been just a copy/paste error).



    His newest video where he's using this guitar:


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    The Delos 6-string now also has an "extended scale" option: 26.5".
     
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    That’s pretty cool, but I would NOT have the balls to paint over a flamed maple top. I’d live the rest of my life looking over my shoulder, waiting for my mom to smack me in the head for being an idiot.
     
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    When their SH550/575 first launched, it was standard with a flamed top. A customer wanted the guitar painted all gloss black, and they wouldn't give any sort of discount for a plain wood top, so it's a flamed top completely (even the edges) hidden under black paint. Although I imagine as thr finish settles, you can probably see the flamed pattern telegraphic through it. Ha!

    The first time I ever saw it done like this from Carvin was back in '08, when someone wanted the Goldtop metallic finish, and flamed maple "binding" effect, so it's a flamed maple top, but it's not beveled so you see even less of it! It's a cool look, but, man... I couldn't do it.

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    @spudmunkey yeah, it’s definitely a cool look. I’m not sure if I’d like it more than an actual flamed top. But it is different, and that’s cool. But I’m the same way - if I go for a figured top, I’m not covering it up!
     
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    Simple solution: we need figured binding veneers!

    On topic- that SCB is pretty dope.
    Not the biggest fan of overbeveling stuff usually - but here it works IMHO.
     
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