The Carvin / Kiesel thread

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  1. mbardu

    mbardu SS.org Regular

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    Not helping my vanquish GAS...
     
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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    Nope, Ohio here, it'll be here next Tuesday, birthday is on Saturday. Big 30 and wife told me to go ahead, and I'm glad I did lol
     
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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    Yeah when I saw it, I needed it. This was originally going to be a Delos 7, then I was like wait wait wait man, your first custom guitar you're going for a strat? Nah. Saw the vanquish and immediately changed my mind.
     
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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    It's here! One day After my bday.
     

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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    It plays absolutely amazing, the only feel I can compare the neck feel is actually a Taylor, and that's a compliment. The tung oiled neck feels amazing.
     
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    RevelGTR PRS, Fender, Warmoth

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    Nice. Happy Birthday, enjoy that new guitar.
     
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    OK, so now that I've bought that GIS ZBM7, I am thinking about leaning toward the "love" side of my love/hate relationship with Kiesel, and ordering a LS7. Here's a question for you guys (@spudmunkey @mbardu or any others with knowledge):

    Do they have a pink stain I can get over quilted maple, or is that special order? I know they have trans pink over regular wood, and I've seen a "deep pink" type stain on quilted maple, but I'm not sure.

    I know I can call in to find out, but I don't feel like talking on the phone this weekend, lol. I just wanna type.
     
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  9. KnightBrolaire

    KnightBrolaire L'enfant sausage

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    they have trans pink, and a candy pink finish, which they can do over basically any wood iirc. Candy pink is more expensive/opt 50 iirc.
    This is the candy pink:
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    "Deep" finishes are just the same transparent paints, with a "deep" sanded-back stain under it. It used to be called "DTS" or "deep triple step" and used to be a $100 option, and about 10-ish years ago they made it standard on all flamed and quilted tops.

    Here is Deep Pink with a purple burst, but lots of pink real estate to get a clear view of it on quilted maple:

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    You'll notice the pink candy (which @KnightBrolaire is correct, it's one of those "Jeff-only" finishes) is more of a multi-color look, with some purple highlights in it:

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    Hey while you're at it, you might as well post the original ;)

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    So as for this particular finish. They did a few translucent pink (no burst) guitars before the 2010s, but were pretty rare option 50s that were not very consistent.
    The pink to purple, this one was a first for Carvin as far as I know. At the time, I asked them to use something with a bit more depth, contrast, warmth and purples than the pinks I had seen before - and ended up having to send them pictures of another guitar to color match. The pictures were from an Anderson, and they pretty much nailed it. It is bright AF, not a subtle pink at all :lol: .

    Now I know that you can get that finish if you ask for pink>purple burst. They've done quite a few since and they'll know what you mean even if it's not in the builder. The NS is an example of that.

    But what I don't know is whether the central color is now what they offer in standard if you ask just for translucent pink. I've seen recent Kiesels described as "translucent pink" (no burst) and although that could as always be individual variations, my impression was that they were a bit more on the magenta side and a bit less in-your-face.
     
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    That pink to purple is killer, but I don’t even want to think of how much extra that is going to cost. Is that a Jeff only thing?
     
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    To me, the more magenta-y ones are the Flamingo pink, I believe.
     
  14. mbardu

    mbardu SS.org Regular

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    It's not a Jeff only, and it should cost less than the candy. I don't recall exactly, but I don't think I paid more than ~400$ on cosmetic options on this guitar, and that included both picking a chevron/Starburst type of top, as well the extra work and hassle for initial photo match. Granted, that was before a lot of price increases.

    It may make the guitar non returnable though. At least mine being the first one was non returnable.
     
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    Damn... Those Trans Pink finishes are speaking to my soul. Looking great.
     
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    CanserDYI Beauty can't be seen through the eyes

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    Pink has been calling my name for a while now, I really want a shell pink S style, maybe Delos or Theos...god damnit Jeff you already got a few grand from me this year...
     
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    Yeah, I love pink finishes. I have been wanting a ZBM7 for a while now, and I had considered a quilt finish, but the bevel is so big on it that it really reduces the amount of top wood, so I figured a solid color looks better. At this point I don't want a particular guitar, but I DO want a pink top. So I just need to figure out what to put it on. :lol: I wish they had more 8 string options, and I'd consider an Osiris with trem, if that were still an option, but maybe I should get something totally different, like the NS1 or a gambale or something. Gotta clear a couple things out before I do it, anyway.
     
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  18. BigViolin

    BigViolin JEFF LOOMIS SOLOIST!

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    I think you should just buy a pretty piece of wood and stain it pink and look at it. :hbang:
     
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    Nope Warmoth just answered my itch...for about 1000 less than a kiesel. Doing a shell pink jazzcaster baritone esquire style, but still putting a neck route in case I want to add it later.

    Still want a sparkle or candy pink delos.
     
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    BigViolin JEFF LOOMIS SOLOIST!

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    I should have quoted Hollowway's post above. :lol:

    The conversion necks are cool but I wish someone would redesign an aftermarket body with the proper bridge placement for baritone. That's my bitch though and your project sounds very cool.
     
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