The Carvin / Kiesel thread

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  1. Exit Existence

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    Scored an awesome deal on a Carvin Ct6, deep sunset burst quilt with Duncan Pearly Gates pickups. It's in like flawless condition and sounds and plays amazing. Incredible instrument.



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    You could swim in that top. Congrats OP, lovely score.
     
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    Thanks man! Before I found the guy selling this I was going to spec out the exact same guitar with just the only change being the headstock shape and it was would have been over $1,100 more expensive than I paid for this this (with stock kiesel pickups) lol Lucked out!
     
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    I miss the old gold logo. The newer one is more of like a metallic gold decal material, and less of a "badge" like this.
     
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    New Cyber Monday deals:

    Free:
    - Birdseye maple fretboard upgrade
    - Chambered body upgrade (with the purchase of at top)
    - 10, 12, 14 or 20" radius fretboard options (on applicable models)
    - Black hardware
    - Tung oil neck finish

    Discounted (most are available online):
    - Walnut neck: $50 (normally $100, i think)
    - Acoustic saddles/piezo: $75 (normally $200)
    - Antique Ash Treatment: $50 (normally $100)
    - Flamed Maple top: $125 (normally $250)
    - Burled Maple Top: $300 (normally at least $400)

    Call-in discounts:
    - On a K-series, free upgrade to quilted maple or flamed koa
    - Splatter finishes: $200 (normally at least $300, I think).
    - Color treated fingerboards: $200 (normally $200-500, including fades, bursts)
    - With purchase of master grade flamed or quilted maple, free Candy or Saber finishes.
     
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    Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in...
     
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  7. RevelGTR

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    Yeah this has me considering a chambered JB4 fretless with black hardware.
     
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    You know, it wasn't until I saw them side-by-side that I realized how much I prefer Kiesel's more modern outline on the JB4/5, compared to the "real deal" Jazz bass. The Fender just has a more..."retro" vibe to it that I don't care for. It also why I'm often more drawn to strat alternatives, vs the real thing.
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  9. RevelGTR

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    Well I have to say I think a vintage Jazz Bass is the most beautiful bass design of all time :lol: But the JB is a beautiful modern take, and also the only place I can get a mahogany body, claro walnut top, chambered body, walnut neck etc etc. fretless Jazz.
     
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    Thanos bass is best bass, you can @ me
     
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    I got to molest one at NAMM, and it did indeed feel great. The ONLY thing that bugs me are the tuners overhanging the end of the body. I know it means unfettered access, and I know I'd never put it down in a way that would effect that, but...yeah.
     
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    David Davidson, bassist from August Burns Red, now has a signature model, based on the Kiesel Thanos headless JB-style bass, the DD4.

    DD4 KIESEL DUSTIN DAVIDSON SIGNATURE HEADLESS ELECTRIC BASS | KieselGuitars.com

    $1899

    Walnut body (only), walnut neck (with other neck options), poplar burled top the thin "raw tone satin" clear body finish, matte black pickguard, a couple of fretboard options, and RNC (rear natural clear) included.

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  13. RevelGTR

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    The dude seems super excited and I’m definitely happy for him! I do wonder about these signature models that are more or less just a limited option version of an existing model with maybe one unique option and a hideous optional inlay. I can’t imagine they’re big sellers. I definitely want a Thanos though!
     
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    Ack, it's Dustin Davidson...not David. *facepalm*
     
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    Yeah, they are all pretty niche. The Andy James is about the only one I think we see pretty regularly. It's just a Crescent model with a tiiiiiny bit more of the front/edge of the body shaved off in the lower horn cutout area. The Johnny Hiland pops up now and again, but I wonder how much of those would just be Solo model sales if people knew that Kiesel acquired the "recipe" and rights to make Johnny's pickups, and can be had on their other models?

    Actually the Will Swan models pops up pretty regularly, too.

    The thing is, a lot of these models are cheaper than their standard models with similar specs. So there's actually some incentive to get the signature models.

    For example: The Will Swan model is $2129 with a case. A similar spec'd CS6 is $230 more (once you add the black gloss back and sides, mahogany/maple 5-piece neck, the "traditional" paddle-style headstock, the darker ebony fretboard, acrylic inlays, the non-standard fretboard radius, brushed metal pickup covers, 2v/2t control config, 2-color silver logo, and assuming a $100 finish {but I honestly have no idea how much the Will Swan finish options cost compared to the normal transparent finishes}). And it's worth repeating, those large artist inlays are optional. They are included in the price, but every one of them, you can opt out (except for I think the FG2, which always comes with Frank's logo on the 1st fret).
     
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    For sure, and I can’t imagine they’d do it if it didn’t make financial sense. It probably costs them almost nothing develop one.

    Random side note, I was on the Carvin forum in 2009 when I was ~14 and I’m 99% sure you gave me some advice on an Ultra V build.
     
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    Could be! I ordered and got my black flamed CS6 in 2008.
     
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    As of the start of the year:
    Most models went up by about $50
    They removed the up-charge to add the Vader-style bevels on the DC line, and the SCB-style bevels on the Solo).
    No more Bigsby tremolo option
    DC127 retired (and with it, their last 25" scale double-cut neck-through, but the scale is still available on several models...just no double-cuts)
    The remaining LB bass models retired (the 6-string was retired last year, and they hinted that it was basically one customer who's made it worth their while to still keep offering the LB...but it didn't make the cut this year).

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    Solo model:

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    Dammit I paid for those bevels
     
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    Unbevelable...
     
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