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Discussion in 'General Music Discussion' started by Acrid, Feb 4, 2020.
Preorder just in!!
wow, a full 17 days before release? lucky bastard
Anyone else get it yet? Definitely a discussion worthy album but I don’t want to spoil anything if nobody’s heard it yet.
Really looking forward to this based on the first two singles - is it good?
That solo on Sunless Empire rips.
The songs are pretty incredible, I think the album is a departure from everything else they’ve released. Brandon’s influence seems apparent. I’m not claiming I know who wrote what, I don’t, but I hear more thrash and power metal elements on this album. That may be a positive for some listeners and a negative for others. ‘Miasma’ it is not. The lead work is impressive. Ellis definitely has a style but avoids predictability well. That was my only gripe with Ryan Knight, although I feel songwriting of that era left a high water mark. It has some of most intricate drum patterns that I’ve heard on a TBDM album and Max’s bass lines are interesting to listen to. The bass track switches between locking in with the drums in parts and beefing up the riff in others, his efficiency at this is more noticeable to me on this album. Overall the album is very melodic but (spoiler alert) Trevor doesn’t “sing” on it *ahem Randy Blythe*...thank you for that Trevor. The acoustic track I really liked and it leads into one of their best closers to date. The final track reminded me of when “The Divine Falsehood” hits on JFAC’s ‘Genesis’ album, the overused adjective “epic” fits nicely. What I didn’t like about the album was the guitar tone and the “clank” on the bass track that comes out on my truck stereo. This was one thing I really wanted some more opinions on because I’m waiting for new monitors at home and I’ve only been able to listen in my truck. I’m hoping my opinion changes with a different system. The system in my truck isn’t bad but I want to hear it through some excellent headphones or monitors before I make my mind up. I realize too that I prefer a lot of compression and thicker less refined guitar tones which isn’t what some people want to hear. I also didn’t like the ‘Everblack’ sound and other people seemed to love it. I felt that sounded congested. The guitar tracks got lost for me for the opposite reason, on ‘Verminous’ they sound thin. As a guitar player, I’m buying it for the riffs and big tones. The guitar rhythm tracks were less featured on this release, probably because the songs as a whole stand on their own track to track.
^^^I noticed that "clank" on the bass guitar on Nightbringers too; the only thing I didn't care for on that album. While I've only heard the first two singles on this one, the production does seem to be pretty close to what they did with Nightbringers.
Is the bass "clank" intentional or a production f'up? I kind of like it. Ellis is a gem and he is able to make simple shit sound impossibly detailed, rich and interesting.
I doubt it. Without talking to the producer (Tue Madsen right? Got to look in the liner again) I can only speculate. The album is too cohesive for it to be unintentional in my opinion. It’s very apparent a lot of work went into it. I really doubt a metallic bass tone would go unnoticed, I would guess it was created. I’m just the end user, a TBDM fan since I first heard ‘Miasma’ and a musical hobbyist so what do I know. The album is a masterpiece, there are some aspects about it I don’t like but my opinion is just my opinion. I like the borderline sloppy, big, separated guitar tracks from ‘Miasma’, I like the “volume war” era compression from the first ‘Slaughter of the Soul’ version better than the Full Dynamic Range version, I play guitars with EMG’s and Invaders. Why does that matter? It doesn’t. My point is just because I don’t like the guitar and bass tone doesn’t make it any less impressive to me. I’m so glad my favorite metal band hasn’t gone the way of In Flames or Lamb of God.
A friend sent me this video while I was at work tonight:
It puts a few things in perspective. I really hear the King Diamond influence in Ellis’ playing and what I assume are his songwriting contributions.
My DND set with the album came in a week or two ago as well.
Necky379 nailed it. Definitely intentional, and by no means ruins the album for me. Just kinda like preferring a chocolate sundae to not also have chocolate chips; but chocolate syrup only.
I feel the same way about the last C'theilist album. I'd enjoy that record even more if the bass was not so clanky/slappy, but it's still a marvelous album.
Idk if they’ve been taken down yet, but I’ve seen several full album of this on YouTube. I listened to it. It’s not bad.
me no gud at reviews so here's a haiku:
album short and sweet
definite rippers in it
Riffage galore too
wereworm's feast, leather apron's scorn, how very dead, removal of the oaken stake, child of night are the best songs on the album imo
Just got the (digital) album now, listening to it the first time over proper headphones (Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro). Yes, the bass definitely is "clanky". I like it, it gives it a more modern and percussive sound.
Album is pretty weak, the only memorable song is Sunless Empire.
Made the first pass this morning with the album. So far so good. Riffs are pretty tasty. Bummed that the testament tour was cancelled/postponed but what can do you.
Oaken Stake is sick right?
Love the album, just wish EU pre orders weren't pushed back by a week...