nightflameauto
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Hadn't seen that yet, though it's on the list.Well there was The Sioux Falls massacre in season 2 of Fargo, so there was a motel set in the 80's for a couple episodes.
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S1 and S2 of Fargo are fantastic IMO.
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S-tier TV to be sure, in my opinion. And I'll also include Season 3 in there as I really loved it. I need to rewatch Season 4 and see if I still feel lukewarm on it.
Drew
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i don't remember that actor's name, but I remember first seeing him in a show my sister was into years ago where he was a murder mystery writer who somehow or other got himself embedded as a consultant in a homicide investigation team. Guy has a type, I guess.
Demiurge
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Oh yeah, that show was Castle. For the most part, it was very watchable pabulum. Never shown on the show was when the perp would eventually get acquitted after the jury learned the the police depended on a fucking pulp writer in their investigation.
nightflameauto
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Nathan Fillion is a national treasure, even if he does choose to do a lot of utter tripe as masking as television shows.
The best part of Castle was playing 'spot the Firefly reference.' They were pretty subtle sometimes. He pulls on the purple/blue gloves and holds two fingers on both hands up while flipping them back and forth. (two by two, hands of blue)
But the over-the-top ones were hilarious. The Halloween episode where he comes in wearing his full Captain Reynolds gear and his daughter starts giving him shit.
"What are you supposed to be?"
"Space cowboy."
"Didn't you wear that a few years ago?"
"Sure, but it's still cool."
As shitty cop shows go, it was fun. Not fun enough to watch every episode religiously or anything, but fun.
Lorcan Ward
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I've never played the game but I am loving The Last of Us.
The film is fantastic too. I liked parts of S3 and I haven't seen S4 yet.
The film is fantastic too. I liked parts of S3 and I haven't seen S4 yet.
nightflameauto
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My wife wasn't a fan of the movie Fargo, so I've been having a hard time convincing her to give the show a shot. I'm sure it'll make the rotation eventually though. Gotta be better than some of the garbage we watch. Like the newer season of The Mole. It's funny, but it's trash.
Demiurge
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I don't think that one needs to have seen or liked the movie to enjoy the show, but I guess it depends on what exactly she didn't like about it. It's not an adaptation of the movie but it's in the same 'world' with different stories though sharing a similar black comedy vibe, if not a little darker in spots.
CanserDYI
Yeah, No, Definitely.
Im a big fan of the games and haven't wanted to start it scared that its not going to live up to the games, cool that you enjoy it.
nightflameauto
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The show runners seem pretty respectful. Instead of the half-hour self-back-patting sessions the Ds had after every episode of D&D with boobs, I mean, Game of Thrones, they're having very nice chats about how they try to remain very respectful of the games, and unless they can make it better, they don't touch the base lore because that's what made it a great story.
I haven't played the games, so can't say how well they've done, but I haven't heard any apoplectic fans losing their shit like with most newer shows. Guess they're doing OK so far.
I will say Nick Offerman seemed uber-awkward playing the gay scenes. His personality with everything else made it seem he'd fight that eventuality pretty hard before giving in, and they just sorta smooth-transitioned into an awkward gay scene. Outside of that moment of "wait, what?" this week's was a pretty good, if transitional, episode. I'm very rarely a fan of tanking the main story for an entire episode for a story that will have zero impact going forward, but as far as that type of thing goes, this was a pretty heartfelt one.
Based on the AFTE post-show, this will probably be the one to bring the hate from the fans if any of them will. They 'enhanced' a couple side-character stories for the sake of drama. It was well handled, but I could see a game fan getting pissed they wasted time on it when there's more important story elements to explore. Guess we'll see what the reaction is as people catch it through the week.
KnightBrolaire
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They didn't have a ton to work with from the game when it comes to Bill, as he's kind of an ancillary character. He was an asshole in the game (and less of an asshole in the show). He was still alive in the game and helps Joel/Ellie get some stuff from a school and then all hell breaks loose. They barely hint at Frank/Bill's relationship in the game. Honestly I think they cut the whole school sequence from the show because it would have been relatively expensive to do big setpiece fights in basically every episode for a first season. Plus we're getting the Pittsburgh fights/sequences next episode, which will be very entertaining to see.
Drew
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I don't want to get too far into this for fear of spoilers but holy shit, what an amazing episode. 1 and 2 were so bleak, that after a day when I knew my wife had a lot on her mind, I was shocked when she voluntarily switched from The Mindy Project to queue up episode 3, and by the end of that episode, she was in tears.
The narrative choice there was odd, for sure... but I think if the point of the show isn't just Joel and Ellie trying to find his brother and get her to a settlement so they can look for a cure, but instead is about how you find meaning and purpose when the whole world you know falls apart and ends around you, then it was fucking masterful storytelling, and the circuitous way you find out how Joel gets a truck and a small authoritarian government's arsenal of guns is entirely the point.
I thought Offerman played that well, tbh - of course he was nervous and awkward that first time. Do you remember YOUR first kiss?
Agree with you on the GoT self-love-fests after every episode - those two got caught up in how brilliant they thought they were, and the end of the show really suffered for it.
Also, lifting this from my post about this on a different forum:
Also, for our non-Bostonian members - while in some ways their portrayal of downtown Boston is exellent (I work just off Congress Street, I recognize a few of the settings, and the stehouse itself and Faneuil Hall (where you see all the zombies piled up) are pretty accurate... but some details are just not. One of the biggest is that ten miles outside Boston looks like this:
...and not this:
Demiurge
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Yeah, but the writers have probably heard enough Massholes say they live "just outside of Boston" when they're really beyond of the 495 belt. It's a big town!Also, for our non-Bostonian members - while in some ways their portrayal of downtown Boston is exellent (I work just off Congress Street, I recognize a few of the settings, and the stehouse itself and Faneuil Hall (where you see all the zombies piled up) are pretty accurate... but some details are just not. One of the biggest is that ten miles outside Boston looks like this:
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KnightBrolaire
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yeah I was laughing at that. It looked more like Northern Maine than 10miles outside bostonI don't want to get too far into this for fear of spoilers but holy shit, what an amazing episode. 1 and 2 were so bleak, that after a day when I knew my wife had a lot on her mind, I was shocked when she voluntarily switched from The Mindy Project to queue up episode 3, and by the end of that episode, she was in tears.
The narrative choice there was odd, for sure... but I think if the point of the show isn't just Joel and Ellie trying to find his brother and get her to a settlement so they can look for a cure, but instead is about how you find meaning and purpose when the whole world you know falls apart and ends around you, then it was fucking masterful storytelling, and the circuitous way you find out how Joel gets a truck and a small authoritarian government's arsenal of guns is entirely the point.
I thought Offerman played that well, tbh - of course he was nervous and awkward that first time. Do you remember YOUR first kiss?
Agree with you on the GoT self-love-fests after every episode - those two got caught up in how brilliant they thought they were, and the end of the show really suffered for it.
Also, lifting this from my post about this on a different forum:
Also, for our non-Bostonian members - while in some ways their portrayal of downtown Boston is exellent (I work just off Congress Street, I recognize a few of the settings, and the stehouse itself and Faneuil Hall (where you see all the zombies piled up) are pretty accurate... but some details are just not. One of the biggest is that ten miles outside Boston looks like this:
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wankerness
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Disney+ is where I'm watching it now, but from what I've read up about online, it was also apparently a problem when it streamed on Netflix too.
By the 90s alot of show were shot in 16:9 and then cropped to 4:3 when it aired on TV. Some shows knew it would be aired in 4:3 so just shot it like they'd have done prior, but a few shows framed for 16:9 regardless (Friends and That 70s Show for example).
Simpsons and Seinfeld had the opposite problem of a show shot / animated and framed for 4:3 and then cropped and stretched to 16:9 years later. Horribly too.
I remember when The Wire first came to 16:9 for the HD remasters they made efforts to crop them in ways that didn't show the equipment and crew in uncropped shots.
David Simon on the Tricky Process of Remastering The Wire
Slate is celebrating HBO’s marathon broadcast of the remastered The Wire by republishing some of our best coverage of the show. This article,...slate.com
There have been worse efforts, did you ever see the HD "remastered" versions of Buffy The Vampire Slayer?
Yeah, they actually did a good job with The Wire and The X-Files and Frasier (on the new blu-ray, I think the streaming versions are still the SD versions). But Buffy...ew. IIRC The Shield did the same thing Buffy did with some seasons, where it was shot in HD, but framed for 4x3, so the edges of the frame basically never were intended to be part of the composition. But due to The Shield's much more kinetic and moving camera there isn't the problem with random stuff appearing in the sides of the frame cause they weren't setting up careful long still shots where they thought they could tell exactly where it was safe for people to stand. Thus the HD versions of The Shield look fine unless you're a nazi for framing balance, and Buffy's have the crap like random cameraman off to the side.
Seinfeld and The Simpsons are just lazy and terrible. Blindly chopped off the top and bottom of the image so things frequently feel claustrophobic and sometimes sight gags are even gone from the frame. But if they put it in 4x3 all the mouthbreathers that make up the majority of people would complain about "the sides of the picture missing." It's exactly the same thing that led to so many early DVD sales being the "fullscreen" editions due to dipshits thinking the top and bottom of the image were missing when they'd play a widescreen movie on a CRT.
Drew
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If I had to guess, I'd say Montana.
I learned the hard way when I moved to the greater Boston area, and managed to end up juuuuuuuust inside 95, that anything beyond 95 was "western Mass," and anything beyond 495 wasn't actually part of Massacusetts.
So, I guess, by that logic, if Joel made it as far as Lincoln, he probably WAS in western Mass.
Of course they're being respectful, it's Druckman's baby and he's been involved in the entire production as far as I know. I read a great profile on him and this show a couple weeks ago that talked about how he envisioned adapting the story for TV and removing a lot of the video gamey elements, like making the combat encounters pretty sparse (at least so far) so that Joel doesn't appear to be a super human. I'm really liking how they are telling the stories of people outside of Joel and Ellie and focusing outside of just their story and their goals. The cherry on top is that it still holds true to how good the story telling was in the game and how good Joel and Ellie were as characters.
Yeah my partner and I thought that Offernan did a great job at portraying that awkwardness at the start, and totally agree that it was masterful story-telling. And this is an example of where I think they did a better job than in the game, like @KnightBrolaire touched on how Bill was alive and just kinda this asshole in the background as you work through this stage of the game.
We were both bawling like babies by the end.
Really looking forward to where they take this, and I'm totally happy if they stretch out the events of the first game to 2 seasons. Our only complaint is that we have to watch it week to week and wait because there are so many posts about it and tiny things that are being spoiled a bit, so we can't save it until it's all done.
Drew
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TBH i thin it's kind of refreshing, to not have everything released all at once so you can binge on it. Think of it this way - I don't have 10 hours at a time to watch a season end to end, so if they DID release it all at 9pm on a Sunday night, it would likely take the better part of two weeks for me to get through the whole thing, and I'd be running into spoilers anyway.
But yeah, after the first two episodes, I thought it was very well done, and had some strong emotional moments, but I don't know if I was really emotionally invested. Now I am.
