Synergy Amps, Are They Worth It?

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  1. c7spheres

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    The Syn-1 and Syn-2 have cab sim output on them. They sound really good from what I've heard on the YouTube vids.
     
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    Apparently I like the taste of my foot or something : ) I was wrong again.
    After a couple attempts I finally got word back from Synergy. The Combos, Heads, and SYN-1, and SYN-2 all have the sensing tech inside it the Syn5050 power amps does not. The sensing tech is infact inside the first preamp stage which is not inside the modules, but it interacts with the modules somehow. That must be what the tube inside the Syn-1 and Syn2 is for then. Good to know. Sorry for any confusion.
     
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    Yeah, I've been trying to make the point throughout the thread but perhaps am not saying it persuasively enough.

    The modules do not have the V1 stage in them. That's why you can't just plug into them. You need one of their "rack" bays (combo, head, syn-1, syn-2) because those "bays" contain the input stage V1. The bias of that stage is critically important, and traditionally Fender has used a general range of values (warm, fat), Marshall has used a general range of values (brighter, tighter), and then Soldano did it's thing (cold clipper). Synergy's modules are able to tell the "module bay" which input bias values to use to best match the type of module.
     
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    NOW I'm really paralyzed between Axe Fx III and Synergy stuff. This module looks killer. It's 2 channels and the depth and presence section is per channel assignable! Being a VHT power amp user it's even more tempting. Maybe this and a TDLX module I'm thinking, but that Ecstacy module is nice too, and that SLO and the VH4, or the HBE. I want to try them all.

    http://synergyamps.com/shop/syn-modules/fryette-deliverance-module
     
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    The 5050 does not need the sensor... the sensing is only useful for the preamp. So anything that can host a module needs it... The 12AX7 in the Syn 1/2, 50, 30 is the V1 of the preamp circuit and the sensor controls the passive network on the input of the first Valve. The two valves on the module are V2 and 3... All the Syn preamps are 3 12Ax7 preamps by virtue of V1 being on the host.

    I have a full Synergy rack rig: Syn2/Syn5050/AxeFx II. It is an absolutely amazing setup.
     
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    Yep, correct, the 5050 does not have the sensing, the syn-1 and syn-2 have it. That's what Synergy told me.
     
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    I vaguely remember someone at NAMM saying the Synergy modules smell like burning plastic. Was this other peoples experience?
     
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    Mine seem to be scentless (Syn 2, 5050, Seven Modules). I would prefer "Springtime Fresh" or perhaps "Winter Pine" but will make do without olifactory output.
     
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    Me waking up today:
    Maybe I’ll practice some guitar after work. Only got some light things to do around the house afterwards.

    Me Mid-afternoon:
    ...Maybe I DO need to sell my Kemper and buy a synergy rig?
     
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    I have a spare power amp that I have got to sell off before I start buying a bunch of these preamps
     
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    FYI: if anyone's thinking about running the synergy stuff direct into an interface, don't. It sounds noticeably worse than if you use it with a poweramp.
     
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    Even with the cab sim output it has? I've heard some good results on YouTube people are getting using it that way.
     
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    yeah. I'll try some other modules and see if it's just the SLO but man did the SLO sound like shit recorded direct. I loved how it sounded into my Revv 100p. I'll prob end up making a comparison video so people can see what I mean.
     
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    Did you try a power amp sim with it direct? I learned myself the hard way with my 6505mh as a preamp. Get the free Ignite Amps TPA and put it between your pre and IR.
     
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    no, just the syn1 and slo module straight to my interface. . I'm going to record it with some amps acting as the poweramp later.
     
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    I've tried that Ignite Amps free sim on my V-Twin rack along with various IR's from Ownhammer and ML Labs. It sounds pretty good and gives that sound and depth a power amp gives.
    - It's kinda odd though to take a cab sim output from something like a Synergy and pump it through a power amp sim though. The Syergy says it's supposed to simiulate playing through a tube amp meaning power section and cabinet. They say it supposed to have the exact feel of a tube amp.
    - A video sounds like a great idea.
     
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    I didn't read where he used the cab sim out, just said direct?
     
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    I don't think he said cab sim out. My error.
     

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