Strandbergs and pinch harmonics + vibrato

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  1. Sklubby

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    I may be off here but am I crazy when I say not having the head stock holds a player back from getting a gnarly pinch harmonic and mixing it with some vibrato? I had a strand for a hot minute and I kept running into this problem. I'm not sure if it was a setup issue, whats your take on it?

    10 seconds into this video is what I'm talking about.

     
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    I never had issues on my Vader. Anything past the nut really has little to do with happens in front of it. No idea what the issue could be to be honest.
     
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    Nah, you don't need a headstock to pull off a pinch harmonic.
     
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    Having more or less mass at the headstock can change the resonant frequency of the guitar causing some notes to ring less true due to frequency cancellation. Maybe this influences how easy it is to get pinch harmonics on certain notes. We can't say one is better than the other in any meaningful way...depends on each particular piece of wood IMO.
     
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    Maybe you need hotter pickups?
     
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    Or hotter fingers.
     
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    If that was the case then any guitar with a locking nut with have that problem. There is very little movement passed the nut, the difference you have to bend is micro compared to lock nut on and off.
     
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    The guitar probably doesn't have the same PUs. Those can make a significant difference with regards to pinch harmonics. Headstock or headless has almost no impact on this.
     
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    Huh? I don't even understand. Pinch harmonics are a function of technique. Pickups will magnify it but that is all. And which guitar I use has very little effect, only the string tension and gauge.

    I choke up too much on my pick and I get pinch harmonics easily even on acoustics. Doesnt matter whether hot pickups or what guitar. I was playing Behold the Crown by After the Burial on acoustic to annoy my wife and kids the other day in GC lol.

    Looser strings definitely make it much easier ( e.g. 9-42 or 10-46 in drop-D or E-flat are super easy)
     
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    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    I thought about this some more and I definitely think it's gauge and tension. Were you using a multiscale with thicc strings? Because that would make the technique much more difficult to do. You may not get the vibrato, but you should still have the same ability to rake the string with your thumb chubb to get the initial tone.

    Because if Frank Gambale can get pinched harmonics on sweep arpeggios...
     
  13. Sklubby

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    First of all thank you everyone for the feedback. Second yes! I forgot to mention this was a multi scale Boden 7 if I remember correctly.
     
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    Like trying to get pinched harmonics on a bass string lol.
     
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    When you start off learning to do that, you wind up nailing it on one specific string and fret. Once you can hit them up and down the neck on whatever string, it's easy to do on pretty much anything. I can't think of any reason why it'd be harder on a headless guitar. My TAM10 has a HUGE headstock compared to my PRS, and they're not any easier or harder on either guitar.

    However, I do thing a multi-scale guitar might make it more difficult at first, as the node point on each string is gonna be a little off from where you're used to.
     
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    It's all technique. Thicker strings do take a bit more finesse, especially if you're aiming for higher harmonics.

    It's nothing to do with it being a Strandberg. Here's a short sample with my Boden Prog 7. Pinch harmonics on the 9th fret, B E and A strings. Gauges are Kalium .061, .045 and .033 respectively. You'll hear I wiffed the last one on the B string.

    https://soundcloud.com/cyberneticsea/untitled-1
     
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    On thicker strings (52+) my pinch technique is almost comically more pronounced than on say the G or B string.
     
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    I think this needs a video playtrough....
     
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    To be honest, the most frequent reasons for pinch harmonics not working the way one is used to are typically related to scale length / bridge position differences, pickups and string gauges, and may even derive from a combination of these factors. I had a couple strandies, one with Aluma 90's and the other with DiMarzios, and it was never an issue in the slightest, but I'm used to quickly figuring out where the harmonics are when picking as it's an effect I've always enjoyed.
     
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    This is 100% a pickup/amp/gain issue.

    A head stock has zero, nothing, nada to do with pinch harmonics
     

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