Strandberg #6 on Ebay

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  1. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    Should probably note that the guy on here as Stealthtastic now is NOT the kid that went by stealthdjentstic on here and mehtab and stealthtastic on other forums
     
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    Jeez, THAT's confusing. :lol:
     
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    <jeremy irons>You have no idea. :lol:
     
  4. WSchaferJR

    WSchaferJR Stef B7

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    I definitely disagree with him being misleading, that is unacceptable behavior. It seems, however, that a lot of folks are upset because Zach gave them a bad deal. That's really your own responsibility. I've gotten screwed before, but you learn from it and move on. That certainly doesn't excuse his other behavior though.
     
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    jacksonplayer The Fusion Guy! Contributor

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    It may be "your own responsibility," but a community has the right and the responsibility to get rid of members who scr*w over other members. It's just that simple.

    Engage abuses the implied goodwill of forums like this--the notion that a fellow forumite won't screw you over the way a random a-hole on eBay will.

    Nobody's saying he lacks the legal right to do what he does (though the fake Hetfield-owned-this-guitar shit on the ESP board starts to smell like fraud), but forum owners/administrators should not permit his behavior, and it appears most are not.

    As for the silly $15k Strandberg listing, eBay has never been serious about policing against offline deals. Whenever I've listed guitars that are sought-after or hard to find (not even very expensive ones), I get bombarded with requests to do a stealth BIN. I never do, because eBay's seller protections--as flimsy as they are--are worthwhile.
     
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    Wasn't me. :nono:
     
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    Part of that, however, is helping OTHER people learn from it - if a member has screwed one person, he's likely to screw someone else. You've mentioned getting ripped off in the past - I'm sorry to hear that, but if you'd known the other party had screwed someone ELSE before dealing with you, would you have approached the deal any differently?

    If that's the case, and I'm pretty sure it is, then we should be encouraging people to be open about bad deals as well as good ones, so we can all make more informed decisions. Defending any criticism of a guy who flips guitars like this by saying, "well, it's your own fault if you did the deal, and he has the right to charge or offer whatever he wants" misses the point; that he's a guy whose asking for sale price or any offer to buy is highly likely to be suspect, and trying to shout that down is just doing the community a disservice.
     
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    jacksonplayer The Fusion Guy! Contributor

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    What engage apparently did with Blitzie in that Ibanez/Carvin trade was abusive behavior, period. If he wants to do that on Craigslist, fine. But I would never put up with that as a forum mod/admin. Members should be expected to give each other a square deal, not try to pull a fast one like that.

    Hell, when I list stuff in forums, I usually discount it a little just in the hope of not having to mess around with eBay. I'm not going to give stuff away, but neither am I going to gouge members of communities that I enjoy participating in.
     
  9. Overtone

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    my post may have given the wrong impression. Here I am all for fair deals. The people I've dealt with have never been the ones trying to profit (and even that's cool with me if you are transparent and forthcoming about the guitar's quality) but just long time gear freaks who need to move something or add something I'm looking to move. I think the code is generally to follow the golden rule and deal with each other fairly because it makes it not about profit but just helping each other out in our own personal tone quests. It seems pretty evident who is who by looking at threads posted, itrader rep, etc.. Just seeing the price Zack posts here vs. on ebay makes me immediately know that as much as i like his collection and have some appreciation for him being able to try out so much gear, that he's not the type of person I'd do business with.

    So that said, this whole thing is outside of the forum to begin with, and even outside of the forum it should be obvious he's trying to make some bucks by cashing in on wow factor and limited availability. He wouldn't be the first to try and hype up an instrument on those qualities and post a ludicrous price. I'm all for fair deals elsewhere too, of course, but seeing shennanigans on ebay is hardly an outrage to me.
     
  10. steinmetzify

    steinmetzify CHUG & SLUDGE

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    Wow......lot of hate in here. Never done any deals with him, but have seen the stuff on here and other forums. He's always been nice to me the couple times we've talked but the stories are horror.

    I think the idea that you buy low and sell high is common enough business practice, and I've envied a lot of the guitars he's thrown up....part of the problem lies in screwing over forum members, where the above mentioned 'golden rule' applies....at least on most of the forums I'm on....I always try and give someone a decent deal, work with em for payments, whatever.....I think out in the world, shops, eBay etc would be more of the place to try and cash up for guitars/gear than on a forum.

    One of my best bros in the gear world is a sick gearhead.....GAS will take hold and he'll lose his ass on stuff he sells just to try something new.....I've gotten great deals from him and same from me....I think gearheads should try and help each other out as much as we can, we all know GAS is a sickness and we've all fallen to it numerous times.....just saying what I'd do/like to see done.

    My .02
     
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    has anyone else noticed the guitar isnt listed anymore? dont know if it sold or the listing was just taken down
     
  12. narad

    narad Owned a Zune

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    Listed it as sold from one of the forum ads.
     
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    The guitar was sold and I was :ninja:'d
     
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    ah, I wonder who got it lol
     
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    I'm confused.

    #5 (Chris Letchford) was spec'd as "Neck Thru" on the Strandberg website, yet #6 was listed as "first neck thru ever built" ?
     
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    ^ Yoink, that's pretty bad. :lol:
     
  17. narad

    narad Owned a Zune

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    I'm not sure if this is the reason or it was just some marketing BS (OMG! THE FIRST NECK THRU EVER!?), but Ola's instrument number isn't a great indicator of build order.
     
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    ramses Guitar/pizza regular

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    Yup ... you'll notice that #42 has already been delivered, while #18 is still "in progress".
     
  19. jahosy

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    Fair enough. :yesway:
     
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    Rook Electrifying

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    They were made at the same time, I don't know which was first if one was. Ola's description name's #6 as a twin to Chris's #5. That's all I know about that.

    Someone mentioned something about 'if it were worth more than Zack paid he'd have been outbid' or something. I didn't take bids, I set a price and only advertised among my friends to begin with, stuff of this value doesn't sell quickly unless there's someone there with the money looking for it. I didn't want to do a big publicity thing and throw it up on eBay or Guitar Porn or something, I don't really work like that. Zack made me an offer and I was in a position to accept so I did. No bids, no cryptic 'guess how much I want' stuff. :)

    I have no idea where this guitar is now, I'd be curious to find out though.
     

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