Starter head to use preamps with?

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  1. gunch

    gunch Riff Chugman

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    Preamps: Kartakou Colossus, KSR Ceres, Crate XLP, Marshall 9004 (want to try all of them and keep what I like)

    Thinking if solid state: Orange CR 120
    Thinking if tube: Peavey Windsor

    Freak Options: (more $$) Peavey Classic 50 or 5153 EL34 (both options good on their own)

    pres/res would be nice

    I want a 4x12 too but I don’t think that’s a matter of target shopping for one it all depends on what’s for sale local to me, it’d be dope if I could find a special snowflake cab like a Basson or something
     
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    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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    Budget?
     
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    Quilter Toneblock, Rocktron Velocity, Powerstage 200, or Svisound Nano Amp. Why go for a full head when you're planning on running preamps?

    The 5150 as a power amp is nice, but running straight into the effects return on a head means the power amp is running at full volume and will be very sensitive and noisy. I'm not sure if other tube heads are this way.
     
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    Ceriatone Power Amps. Tube and affordable. They have 20w, 50w, Stereo, etc.
     
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    gunch Riff Chugman

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    <$500. Not the cheapest one could get away with but not so much that the cost of the head and preamp combined is more than used 5150/6505(+) or 5153 territory

    Something to drive a cab, doesn't have to be elegant or pretty. You guys say 4x12 in the room is best and I want that :lol:
     
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    The Katana head is a good 100w SS power amp, that’s light, affordable and great quality.
     
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    TheWarAgainstTime "TWAT" for short

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    Since you're already considering the Windsor head, I would also check out the Valveking 100 head. Really great budget amp to use for rock, as a clean pedal platform, or just for the power section. It's not as monstrous as a 5150, but it does have presence/resonance controls.
     
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    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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    Find a peavey xxl? Orange would probably be fine too.
     
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    Mosvalve 962 or 942.

    Best solidstate poweramp for preamp pedals imo and I’ve tried most of them.

    Cheap too

    preamp pedals + poweramp + 412 was my rig for years and I’m slowly converting back to it.
     
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    If you can find an inexpensive Roadmaster I’d say that’s the 1st and last you’d ever need. I think I paid 400-480$ for mine but I can’t remember, could have been cheaper but it wasn’t more than 500$.
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    Why not just buy a poweramp?
     
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    I'm not ruling them out just getting an idea for what heads that can be cheap that can do the job too

    Looks sick but man it's yuge and probably a magic cop summoner

    Im not seeing any on their website??
     
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    ^ This
    Sounds killer, has pres/res controls but the res being "reactance", and customer support 2nd to none if you need it. Buy from the 2nd run though. I've owned both the original batch with the top mounted fan and the 2nd rev with the side mounted fans. The 1st run would overheat and kill the circuit. Not a problem one out of the 2nd rev.
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    A poweramp will be lighter than a head (even more if you go low wattage) and you can use a rack poweramp as well (colossus for example). If you go into rack preamps, there's plenty of cool stuff to choose from. Russia is home of plenty of preamp makers (Kartakou, R&R, Yerasov, Myasnikov...).

    Also, Myasnikov can build you anything you want in case you want something specific.

    An amp head would only make sense with a Victory V4 Kraken, since they have this clever bypass function that allows you to keep your amp channels as well instead of replacing them, essentially adding two more.
     
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    If I had to pick a head to use JUST as a poweramp it would be a Randall EOD 88
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    Fuck. Never heard of those and I want one now. With a matching red cabinet of course.
     
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    I want one too. Low key love the idea of the built in fuzz.
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    First thing I would do would be sent it to my tech to mod that into a TS or something actually useful :lol:
     
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    Stereo power amps are nice b/c you can bi-amp with another pre...if you have two cabs.
    Mixing different distortions in parallel is addictive!
     
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