Squier Stagemaster 7, intonation issue on 7th String

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  1. soundbase

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    So I'm trying to intonate my newly acquired Stagemaster 7. I want it to be in Drop A. And on the low string its sharp when I play the 12th fret and compare it to the 12th harmonic. But I have moved the saddle back as far as it can go on the bridge. Any ideas on how can change the saddles so that I can go back further to make sure its not sharp the further I go down the neck? Or will heavier gauge strings help? At the moment I have 10-56, but have ordered some 12-65 and am waiting for those to arrive. I'm hoping with the heavier lower gauge strings I won't have to move the saddles back as far to the point where I run out of space. Is this correct in my thinking?
     
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    Shorten the spring.
     
  3. soundbase

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    Instead of shortening the spring, I took it out completely and I am still running out of space to pull the saddle back so the low B string isn't sharp. All the other strings are intonate fine, its just the low B. Could it just be that the gauge is too thin? Its a 56. I'm getting a 65 and 72 gauge next week I can try to see if it sorts it out.
     
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    How out is it? Enough to cause issues when playing?
     
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    That’s way too thin IMO. Get at least a 62. The 65 should work a lot better for you at a minimum.
     
  6. soundbase

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    @Chris Bowsman This is what it currently looks like without the spring. And yeah it's out by quite a bit. Its about nearly a half semitone sharp when I'm done by the 12th fret

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    But yeah gonna get a heavier gauge and see what happens
     
  7. soundbase

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    Yeah I'm getting a 65 and 72 and gonna see which one works better
     
  8. Chris Bowsman

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    Is that backed up further than the hole the string comes up through?
     
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  9. soundbase

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    Yeah it is. Was trying to take it as far back as could to see if it helped making the string so sharp higher up the fretboard. But didn’t seem to make a difference so gonna move it back forward and wait for my new thicker strings to see if they help.
     
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    did the new thicker string work for you?
     
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    Yeah the 72 made a huge difference on the 6th string. But I had intonation issues when I wanted to go lower than a G. So I took it a step further. I found a local luthier and he made me a custom baritone neck conversion for the guitar. So now I have a 28-inch scale length Maple neck on my Stagemaster, and its tuned down to Drop F, with an 80 on the bottom. Sounds amazing now. And feels like a whole new guitar!



    I'd say you could even go down to 80 on a regular 25.5-inch scale. I did a similar thing with my 6-string 25.5 inch. Slammed an 80 on there and it intonated fine down to F#
     
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    Hah damn, nothing like taking the nuclear option to solve the problem :)
     
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    ...but it shortened the war and saved millions of lives.
     
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    Derp, double post, and it wasn't even funny.
     
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    Great video, I just picked up the same guitar a few days ago (but with a floyd) after being screwed on a deal on a 27" inch guitar. I'm glad it happened actually because I am surprised how nice this guitar actually is. the baritone neck is something I was looking for. What is the radius of the neck and what size frets did you go with? I'll contact your guys.
     
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    I got the luthier to match the profile of the original neck to the new Baritone conversion neck. So it's a standard C shape profile, with a 12" fingerboard rides. With Medium Jumbo frets.
     
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