Speculation is getting out of hand...

[thraxil]

2.) Reverb's sales history tracking tool on their platform is primitive and inherently flawed.

When an item sells on Reverb, and it's an item that is in the sales history database, the price that gets logged into the sales history tracking (and that you see displayed on the little plot-point chart) is not the actual, final price that the item sold for. What is logged is the final listing price that the item was listed for at the time it sold, which is the same price that you see on the ended/closed listing when you go revisit the listing after the item sold.

Ah. Thanks. I haven't sold on Reverb, so that clears up a lot of the weirdness I've seen (I watch Parker guitars pretty obsessively and see some sell for incredibly high prices while a nearly identical guitar will sit at a much lower price unsold for months).

 

[eaeolian]

Anything USA by Jackson has been pretty much priced out for me, especially given my somewhat odd tastes limiting me to pre-1990 Soloists. Truth is, given I prefer bolt-ons anyway, the Charvel Mexi line pretty much gets it done for me for sixes, and 7s are just going to be a custom anyway, so I'm not paying/waiting for them on one of those when I can get what I want from any number of custom builders for less.

 

[Emperoff]

For the sake of further context of this thread:

Listed at 2000€:
https://reverb.com/item/17283096-jackson-custom-shop-7-string-soloist-archtop?show_sold=true
Listed at 7500€:
https://reverb.com/item/61551466-jackson-custom-shop-arch-top-soloist-7-string-sl7

Listed at 3100€:
https://reverb.com/item/45040676-jackson-sl7-usa-custom-shop-soloist-artist-owned?show_sold=true
Listed at 8000€:
https://reverb.com/item/64512794-jackson-custom-shop-sl2h-soloist-7-string

Listed at 3000€:
https://reverb.com/item/34016130-jackson-soloist-7-string-custom-shop?show_sold=true
Listed at 6000€:
https://reverb.com/item/50988470-ja...soloist-2012-trans-purple-ohsc?show_sold=true

Anything USA by Jackson has been pretty much priced out for me, especially given my somewhat odd tastes limiting me to pre-1990 Soloists. Truth is, given I prefer bolt-ons anyway, the Charvel Mexi line pretty much gets it done for me for sixes, and 7s are just going to be a custom anyway, so I'm not paying/waiting for them on one of those when I can get what I want from any number of custom builders for less.

I've seen USA Warriors and Bulb signatures sell locally for 1,5k very recently. Problem is 7-strings are not very common here so I'm sadly stuck with Reverb.

 

[narad]

Anything USA by Jackson has been pretty much priced out for me, especially given my somewhat odd tastes limiting me to pre-1990 Soloists. Truth is, given I prefer bolt-ons anyway, the Charvel Mexi line pretty much gets it done for me for sixes, and 7s are just going to be a custom anyway, so I'm not paying/waiting for them on one of those when I can get what I want from any number of custom builders for less.

I have a super cheap ~1990/1991 MIJ dinky bolt-on for sale ;-)

I've seen USA Warriors and Bulb signatures sell locally for 1,5k very recently. Problem is 7-strings are not very common here so I'm sadly stuck with Reverb.

The natural one on the right of the OP picture was listed at 2K locally, and got relisted recently at 7,5k by some greek dude on Reverb. I wish I had bought it back then, but another killer deal appeared and couldn't afford both guitars.

Dude, next time you see a USA warrior for 1.5k, buy it and call me. Don't even care about the color or aesthetic condition.

 

[Fred the Shred]

Yeah, I think this is lost on folks. Not being able to add another very expensive, bespoke instrument to your collection isn't something "players" worry about, it's what hobbyist and enthusiasts deal in, unless you're part of the extreme minority that are professional musicians.

Even then, most professional musicians up to a point where they can afford to go "fuck it, why not?" with fancy instruments that really offer no objective advantages over their usual go-to guitars tend not to be sucked into that kind of thing all that much.

It's always been like this ever since I can remember, but there seems to be a sort of dick measuring competition with how luxurious one's gear actually is with the consequent inferiority complex from some of those that can't really afford those absurdly costly high end pieces of kit, and many variations come from this "you made it when you flaunt the same guitar, but 10x more expensive and full of aesthetic fluff" mentality, from "I don't deserve guitar X because I'm not good enough" to "I need [insert extremely expensive piece of kit] because gear is holding me back" (this one is sadly so common and leads to so much frustration if you get caught in that) to the well known around these parts elevation of a brand to such mythical heights heavenly choirs start singing whenever you play a chord on it and unicorns shit rainbows in approval.

There's a bazillion brands producing reasonbly priced guitars for all sorts of players, some hurting the wallet some more than others, so I agree with you wholeheartedly. My more than a few first gigs were made with my heavily modded first guitar, which was a cheapo Yamaha RGX112P, and I can say that shitzty sound or clams were never the fault of the cheapo guitar.

 

[Emperoff]

Dude, next time you see a USA warrior for 1.5k, buy it and call me. Don't even care about the color or aesthetic condition.

Looks like it was 1300€

Guitarra Jackson Warrior USA Select

En buen estado. Este modelo ya no se fabrica y costó unos 3300 euros con una espera de cuatro meses para que la fabricasen. Pastillas Seymour Duncan Invader, perfectas para metal. Puente Floyd Rose original. He grabado 5 discos con esta guitarra. La vendo porque ya no toco la guitarra. Regalo...

es.wallapop.com

I wouldn't have any problem arranging a shipping. It wouldn't be cheap, though, but still probably worth it.

 

[odibrom]

I've only made one buy from Reverb and that was a Synergy Syn5050 poweramp recently (2 months ago) because it had a decent price and it's rare to find these poweramps in the used European market. Besides that, only one other buy from a foreign country, which turned out a pretty cool and decent deal, an Ibanez S5527 in almost new condition. All others have been local buys...

 

[narad]

Looks like it was 1300€

Guitarra Jackson Warrior USA Select

En buen estado. Este modelo ya no se fabrica y costó unos 3300 euros con una espera de cuatro meses para que la fabricasen. Pastillas Seymour Duncan Invader, perfectas para metal. Puente Floyd Rose original. He grabado 5 discos con esta guitarra. La vendo porque ya no toco la guitarra. Regalo...

es.wallapop.com

I wouldn't have any problem arranging a shipping. It wouldn't be cheap, though, but still probably worth it.

That's insane. I just bought a USA warrior. It was basically a bit more than that, AND a Diezel Herbert shipped to the otherside of the world.

 

[eaeolian]

I have a super cheap ~1990/1991 MIJ dinky bolt-on for sale ;-)

Not as cheap as the one I bought in October. If it had 7 strings, we could talk, but...
I mean, seriously, DR7Ts are going for $850. They're not worth that. I'd hate to see was a Mexi 7 string Dinky would go for.

 

[OmegaSlayer]

I just started scouring Mercatino a couple months ago Wound up following a random link for a Valley Arts image there... some of the prices were not bad, but I've seen a number of reasonable deals disappear and show up on Reverb for double (and not sell)

Out of curiosity I just checked Reverb to see how much costs today some stuff that I purchased through Mercatino

Paid 450 € for an Ibby XPT700, now one on Reverb is at 1500 €
Paid 400 € for an Ibby RBM10 Reb Beach Model (NOT the 100!), now one on Reverb at 1200 €, and it's the Korean
Paid 600 € for an Ibby RG2228, now some on Reverb at around 1200 €, and I think that's a steal, incredible that those guitars are still unpurchased

 

[Robslalaina]

Wish I had never sold my 2027xvv. Could have put it up on the Verb for like 9,500 and yet totally own up to that dick move...

 

[RevDrucifer]

No one except RevDrucifer needs a Norlin era Gibson. But only the Silverbursts LPC’s.

FTFY

 

[odibrom]

Wish I had never sold my 2027xvv. Could have put it up on the Verb for like 9,500 and yet totally own up to that dick move...

I kind of feel you're joking on that Reverb price tag... you should have stopped your sentence at "I wish I had never sold my 2027XVV." All the rest of your post is accessory. 2027XVVs should only be sold to ME... just kidding a bit, I've 2 of those and those are my besties!...

 

[Emperoff]

Out of curiosity I just checked Reverb to see how much costs today some stuff that I purchased through Mercatino

Paid 450 € for an Ibby XPT700, now one on Reverb is at 1500 €
Paid 400 € for an Ibby RBM10 Reb Beach Model (NOT the 100!), now one on Reverb at 1200 €, and it's the Korean
Paid 600 € for an Ibby RG2228, now some on Reverb at around 1200 €, and I think that's a steal, incredible that those guitars are still unpurchased

Do people on Mercatino usually ship overseas? I've found pretty cool stuff there but I'm always afraid to ask.

I'm on the hunt of a Brunetti MC2 and there are shitloads in there

 

[OmegaSlayer]

Do people on Mercatino usually ship overseas? I've found pretty cool stuff there but I'm always afraid to ask.

I'm on the hunt of a Brunetti MC2 and there are shitloads in there

Mate, you're still in European Union, it's not exactly oversea
You can pay through SEPA
Try to ask, worse case scenario, people will tell you "no", we Italians bark a lot but don't bite (yet)

 

[Emperoff]

Mate, you're still in European Union, it's not exactly overseas

I'm SO used to ask that question to US sellers that didn't even think it

 

[bostjan]

I've seen tons of AxeFX FM3's on various sites, used, listed for over what they sell for new, quite often. All the while, they are in stock and ready to ship from fractal. Even Guitar Center had a listing not too long ago for one of those entry-level Jackson 7 strings, a little dinged up, for $20 more than what the same model was listed for on the same page. Evidently, it sold, because it's gone now, and, again, the entire time it was listed, the new ones were in stock. So, yeah, the used music gear world has gone stupid.

 

[odibrom]

My bassist already bought some stuff from Mercatino into Portugal, so that's a yes...

 

[yan12]

Supply and demand, same as always.

Most of those insane prices don't close there. It's like real estate.

A house sells for $550k. Then you find out there was 12k in concessions from the seller towards closing costs, etc.

The sale is recorded at 550k to keep the tax base nice and high, but 538k is what it really went for.

Same with gear. But if someone is willing to pay stupid money it's always best to be the seller. Follow that principle and you will have stupid money for guitars.

 

[somethingsomething]

I've seen tons of AxeFX FM3's on various sites, used, listed for over what they sell for new, quite often. All the while, they are in stock and ready to ship from fractal. Even Guitar Center had a listing not too long ago for one of those entry-level Jackson 7 strings, a little dinged up, for $20 more than what the same model was listed for on the same page. Evidently, it sold, because it's gone now, and, again, the entire time it was listed, the new ones were in stock. So, yeah, the used music gear world has gone stupid.

God, I hate Guitar Center/Musician's Friend used listings. Like, is it a company mandated policy that only one picture is allowed and it should be taken with a 2005 2MP Razr cellphone? How can ALL of the pictures be so profoundly terrible? And then the condition categories mean absolutely nothing because the people at GC just go, "yep, that's a gee-tar" and list it at some random price with some random condition before letting every 12 year old in the county manhandle it to squeak out the opening of "Raining Blood."

And let's not forget the description! Which is never more than about five words: "This appears to be a guitar." It's like they're actively trying NOT to sell used gear.

Fuck.

Rant over.