Songs to improve my playing

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  1. LudovicB

    LudovicB Member

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    Hey everybody,

    after buying the solodini book and have practice some theory and techniques exercices, I want to apply this techniques and theory on songs and compositions.

    I write song a lot, but i think make cover of other artist song is also beneficial.

    To set my guitar level, i can pick properly 16 notes at 100 bpm (not terrible).

    So i have think to lean some Faceless song like legions of the serpent, the ancient covenant, sons of belial, xenochrist, some necrophagist song (epitath album), periphery song (have a blast, luck as a constant, mile zero, etc...) to improve my technique and also my creativity. What do you think? Any good ideas for song to learn?
     
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    amberawakening Well-Known Member

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    That's crazy! As soon as I saw the title of this thread I was about to say "Learn a song from the Faceless!"

    Anyways, I'd suggest Necrophagist, maybe a couple of songs from Veil of Maya, All Shall Perish, and some of Born of Osiris' older stuff.

    Necrophagist will be a challenge.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns4EA4OJt18
     
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    Between the Buried and me also has a very good composition on most of their stuff. I'd suggest the album "Colors."
     
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    ghost_of_karelia Utrydd dei Svake

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    Most Amon Amarth songs will do wonders for your tremolo picking. :D
     
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    Thank you for your answers. You think all shall perish and born of osiris have song that i can play ( 16 notes at 100 bpm)?

    The faceless have pretty good song to practice
     
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    YES. Any Necrophagist will ....ing teach you how to be ready for anything if you actually sit down and force yourself to play one of their songs. It's an unholy barrage of notes.

    Another I would recommend is Animals as Leaders - Impulse or Song of Solomon.
     
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    Solodini MORE RESTS!

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    Even if it's above your current level of ability, go for it at a speed you can manage and just increase the tempo bit by bit as you improve, working toward the target tempo of the song. Save yourself from getting bored of playing the same song by chopping up the phrases of it and rearranging them into a new order to make something fresh and interesting, working on the same skills but with a different sound to keep you interested.

    Thanks for buying the book. I really hope you enjoy it. I'm here to help if you struggle with it at all. :)
     
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    If you want to learn how to alternate pick, Paul Gilbert is the man. My last girlfriend used to call this "the alternate picking song" because I'd always practice it when I decided I needed to get better at picking.

    It's about 130bpm, so it'll push you on speed a bit... But the adjacent string stuff and string skipping, will pose some challenges, as will the variation between straight 16ths and 8th triplets.

    Paul Gilbert - Technical Difficulties (Racer X) - YouTube
     
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    meteor685 SS.org Regular

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    Just Make a list of ur favorite songs, and take one at a time dont learn too much at once i did that and made crap progress. i made a gigantic list of songs im going to learn one at a time Anyways Heres some of it, i think they help with technique mostly. If ur like me and currently in a technique and theory obsession phase heres some looking into for the long term i guess.

    (X) I would love to Steve vai
    Time impact Jakub Zytecki

    Cosmic Mother Jakujb Zytecki

    Fire and ICe Yngwie Malmsteen

    Im alright neal zaza

    liottle charmer Frank gambale

    Fred Allan holdsworth

    two is one Andromeda

    Extension of the wish Andromeda

    keys to the city Tony Macalpuine
    Heart of sunrise Yes
    Alley Cat Seventh Wonder


    Go off cacophony

    *Assimilate Regenerate Paul Wardingham

    *Enter the metaverse Paul wardingham

    *Cyber Warfare Paul wardingham

    *Visions and Dreams Derryl Gabel

    *Blue Fingers Derryl Gabel

    White Room Cream
    Aum Disperse
    *Dance Disperse
    *Profane the ground Disperse
    *Sea of Lies Symphony x

    *Futureshock Paul wardingham

    *Last Epic ACT

    *Todays Report ACT

    *imaginary friends ACT

    *Angling Feelings Kaipa
    Casino Al Di meola

    *Fields of utopia Paul Wardingham
     
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    cult-leader-of-djent SS.org Regular

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    If you'd really like to improve your playing I'd suggest learning songs by Polyphia such as "Impassion" it'll provide a challenge for you in the area of improving your technique and overall composition skills.

    Personally, a song that really set my playing skill to a new level was the track "It's not safe to swim today" by Veil of Maya.

    Thank you Veil of Maya for improving my playing! lol.
     
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    Good choices man, Have a Blast is pretty tough to play, the main theme has this really annoying 3rd-8th fret symmetrical pattern and there's tons of freboard acrobatics in it. Great for finger flexibility/general dexterity...and if you can be arsed, some of the "theory" in parts is wacko, although you can pin it on basic chromatic movement most of the time. The solo by Guthrie is an absolute b*tch though, I cant play it :(


    Protest the Hero have some tricky tunes too, really cool style of songwriting.
     
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    Just play songs that you like and use a program to slow it down to a tempo you can play. I'm learning Polyphia right now; they are really fast and technical, but when I slow it down to 60% I can learn it and then get it up to about 80%. Which for my style, that speed is fine, I don't care too much about getting to 100%.

    I use Amazing Slow Downer, but I think you can use a DAW to get the same effect of slowing a song down.
     
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    16th notes at 100bpm is not really that fast. Any of the band's songs in the OP will be extremely difficult. I won't say not to learn them, but you're gonna be playing them really slowly for a quite a while. Don't try to play them faster than your ability, either. I made that mistake with Marco Sfogli songs because I was too impatient, but once I humbled myself and slowed things down, progress became much faster. As Guthrie has said,
    speed comes from accuracy. Focus on being accurate and having both your hands relaxed. If your hands feel tense, slow it down and play it relaxed, and then speed it up a little and try to play just as relaxed. If you start to have any pain in your fretting hand, stop and wait til it dissipates, and then try to be more relaxed the next time.

    I'd say go for it if you think these songs will keep you motivated to practice and improve. Don't get too discourage when things seem too difficult. Just keep plowing away.
     
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    Faust by The Human Abstract is pretty challening, I just finished learning it.
     
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    Way beyond the fond old river by SikTh. I'm into my second week of learning/practising, and it seems a long way off before i'll be able to play it up to speed. That verse riff is a killer!
     
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