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  1. DropTheSun

    DropTheSun SS.org Regular

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    [SC]https://soundcloud.com/mediumplayer/demo-atlas-sky[/SC]

    New song!

    Gear:
    Axe FX II
    Chapman ML7T
    Ibanez K5 Bass
    Steven Slate Plugins

    It's cool, if you give some feedback!:cool: Also doesn't hurt if you start to follow me on soundcloud. There is going to be some grazy tunes in the near future.
     
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    Sounds great man,you're very talented, that's obvious. Keep up the good work!
     
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    Hey cool song man! I really dig that bass tone, and the mix isn't too bad either!

    What patch did you use for the clean delayed tone?
     
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    Mitä ikinä teetki nii älä kuuntele tota jäbää, joka kommentoi sulle tonne SoundCloudiin.

    Skebat liian kovalla, kliinit myös. Ei paljoo tosin.

    Rummut vähän liian kompressoitu (ja hiljasella), pellit vähän turhan kovalla ja liikaa high endiä. That's about it.
     
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    Hmm en ymmärtäny tän pyrkyrin kommenttia ollenkaan, jos tosiaan teet niinkuin aikasemmin sanoin tuolla, niin referoimalla viimeistään huomaat miten hiljaisella koko biisi on. Eihän noissa rummuissakaan ole mitään kompressiota.

    Edit: Ellei se nyt siis ollut itsestäänselvää, niin laitetaan referenssiksi vaikka Peripheryn raita. Oletan että aloituspostaaja on hakenut tai hakee vaikutteita edes jossain määrin Peripherystä. Tyyli ja saundimaailma antaa näin ymmärtää.
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    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/72315244/z/A_B.mp3

    Sekin että skebat on "liian kovalla" on väärin arvioitu. Kitaroiden volyymitaso on suhteessa hyvä, mutta yläpäässä on taajuuksia mitä voisi leikata. Sori Kurkkuviipale, mut jos sulla on se aika kuukaudesta, niin jätä se omaan tietoos. Älä tarjoa miksaus- ja masterointipalvelua, jos et tiedä mistä puhut, tai et osaa antaa oikeita neuvoja.
     
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    Kurkkuviipale Another Sinking ....

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    Joku tossa pumppaa, itte veikkaisin, että kompressorit ihan mega kovalla ja attack alhaalla ja release korkeella. Ainakin huoneessa/overeissa. Eipä sen lisääminen tuota miksiä paremmaksi tee, se oli mun pointti.
     
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    Virveli nyt varsinkin on tollanen lyhyt pamahdus missä ei ole häntää paljoakaan, ja just ennen referenssiraidan alkamista se virvelin piikki yltää -0.6 dB niin ei se attack järjettömän alhaalla ole. Ei rumpuja tarvii lytätä, mutta aika prosessoimattomalta se kuulostaa. Basarikaan ei tuu läpi.
     
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    Kiitos jätkät neuvoista.
    Eli lyhyesti korjauslistalla olisi :
    1. Kitaroiden EQ. Ylätaajuuksia pois (ja ehkä muutama notch "ongelmataajuuksille"?)
    2. Rumpuihin parallel kompuraa enemmän? Ja virveliin kaikua?
    3. Koko miksaukseen kompuraa/volan maksimointia?

    Välttämättä kaikki temput ei ihan kertalaakista onnistu, kun opetteluahan tämä miksaaminen tuntuu aina olevan. :)

    In English:
    Got some feedback, what to do to get my mix better. So im giving it a shot.
     
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    Thanks!
    I use USA Clean Amp without a Cab Block and the preset has some parallel delay, reverb, pitch flavors to add some Ambience and shimmer effect.
     
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    Rhytm guitars sound a bit thin and too bright imo, i feel the mix lacks low end overall. Song is dope though!
     
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    I made those fixes, so how does it sound now? To me it kicks a lot more ass now. But do you guys hear any other areas etc. where the mix needs adjusting?

    NEW MIX
     
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    You could take some of the bass out from the snare (200Hz) as it contributes to that "pumpy" sound. The mix is swaying a little bit which is because you probably slammed a limiter with a low threshold in it, to the end of the plugin chain, so the drums sink the guitars and overhead momentarily which is bad. What you want is increase gain little by little in the mastering chain. Gain increase > EQ> compress a little > gain increase > compress etc > limiter with a ceiling no higher than -0.1dBFS (I shoot for -0.6dB). The chain could be a little different, but it's important that you don't make too drastic changes here. Sometimes we're guilty of doing that for certain reasons, and if it sounds good then it's okay, but generally, leave that to the mixing stage. The mix should already sound loud and not too hollow, while typically peaking way below 0dB because you want headroom for all the processing in the mastering stage.

    If you don't already use visual monitoring btw then take a look at e.g. spectrum analyzers such as SPAN, which is free. Study the spectrum of some reference tracks you're using and compare to yours, at the mastering stage. Some frequency keeps sticking out too much or is absent? Most likely a bad thing.
     
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    Man you have good ears! I didn't hear that "pumpy" sound. But i noticed, that my Master glue compressor was peaking on red, so i lowered it and decreased the Master volume a bit. Limiter shows 0.1 dB peak now. I also made a 3dB/Q1 cut in the snare 200hz.

    HERE IS THE NEW MIX
     

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