Senator Barney Frank (D-MA) calls for decriminalization of marijuana

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  1. ZeroSignal

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    If that is directed at me I was trying to figure out what the logic is behind what he's saying. If I am to assume that you are condoning this then what is your logic behind it?
     
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    Well said. :agreed:
     
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    Whether or not I condone it is irrelevant. Passing judgment in an unrelated thread gets us nowhere...

    Jeff
     
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    Go ahead, make it legal and tax the hell out of it.
     
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    I guess this is always going to be the classic case of an issue that divides people who ask "Why should the government allow that?" and those who ask "Why should the government be allowed to restrict that?" when it comes to politics. When you have people like the ones running the show today, asking the former, pretending they understand the mindsets of those who founded the country, who asked the latter, it's just not fun to care about politics.

    Jeff
     
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    Personally, I prefer Thomas Jefferson's views on the subject:

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."

    "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
     
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    I also think its ridiculous that most people now think that someone is a loser or something because they've used drugs. In a lot of other countries its not a big deal if someone likes to smoke weed or something, its just like another hobby. People really need to decide for themselves rather than abide only by what the law says.

    The bottom line for me is we have serial killers and rapists running loose and we're spending time and money on bagging drug offenders. :noway:
     
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    Is acid next?
     
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    Welcome to America, Aaron. We have a country that cares more about men fucking other men, than a government that is dragging our soldiers and economy through the gutter of a war that doesn't matter. The best thing that could have happened in the 1860s was the south winning the Civil War. Then, they could have had their psychotic Jesusland, and we could have had a country that cared more about shit that matters.
     
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    I agree fully with Drews legalize it arguements, I've been ranting the same for a while. But weed is boring. Acid?
     
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    I make no differentiations. Our country was founded on the principals of guaranteeing civil liberties. We have no right to tell someone what they can or cannot do to their own bodies. What we can do is hold individuals accountable for how their actions effect other people, regardless of what substances he was on at the time.

    PCP is not responsible for you beating up your girlfriend, killing a cop, and wounding two others. You are responsible for not having control over yourself, just like there are guys sitting on jail, convicted of manslaughter, because they drank too much before jumping in their car to drive home.
     
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    If you want to run for office as the "crazy socialist alternative party bastard" I'll vote for you.

    :agreed:
     
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    While I wouldn't call myself a socialist, I find it both incredibly odd and terribly sad that mankind wages wars, oppresses and starves populations, and even put the good of the planet that live on behind money, a simple concept that is no longer based upon something tangible and real.

    If you look at humans as simply intelligent animals capable of rational thought, then it makes perfect sense. We, like any other animal, have no mercy for anyone but ourselves and maybe our offspring, and will do whatever it takes to survive. If we can be fat and happy, while someone else starves, it is nothing to get bent out of shape about. All of the horrible symptoms of the human condition are simply a very high level "survival of the fittest".

    However, if you believe in divine power that laid out a set of moral ground rules that cannot be broken--as the oppressors always seem to--then there is absolutely no excuse for the way we treat one another, especially considering that money is "the root of all evil". Why are the atheists always the humanists? Why are the Christians, Jews, and Muslims the ones who will bring suffering with all manner of oppressive laws, horrible weapons, and predatory corporate tactics?
     
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    When used responsibly it hurts only those who take it, like any other drug.

    The key is responsibility. There is no law that can take the place of that, and the many attempts to find such a law have fucked us over endlessly. It's time we give that up.

    Again, like I said, you might be wondering "Why should it be allowed?" and that's exactly the mentality that sent people to form a new country where "Why should it be restricted?" is the key question. Sadly, this change of mindset is why America fails at existence now...

    Jeff
     
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    ^ Sometimes, I want to reach through my monitor and punch you for your stupid opinions. Others, I feel the need to buy you a beer for your simple, brilliant way of describing exactly what I am trying to get across. :lol:
     
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    That's good... nobody's perfect, I'm sure you'll get it right all the time sooner or later.

    Jeff
     
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    Arrogant fucking dick. :lol:
     
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    BZZZT!

    The correct answer is: confident.

    Jeff
     
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