Scale identification

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  1. Schivosa

    Schivosa SS.org Regular

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    I'm quite sure that isn't a known scale. It's the half-whole scale until you hit that D instead of going D# E.
     
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    You are probably dealing with a Locrian #6 scale (second mode of the Harmonic Minor) with an added perfect 5th...

    I would write this scale like this: F# G A Bb C Db D Eb

    Could be wrong though.
     
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    If you re-write it to have all the letters (an important step in scale identification) you get F# G A Bb C C# D Eb.* That looks like G harmonic minor with a tritone in there.

    What I heard was F G Ab Bb B C Db E, which is basically the same as above, but down a major 2nd.



    *(The C# could be considered a Db if it's going to C, but let's ignore that for now.)
     
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    Yes, that's what I was going for. But the song itself is clearly in F# and no modulation in sight, so I decided to enlist the 2nd mode of the Harmonic Minor, the Locrian #6. The extra tritone ends up turning an extra perfect 5th in this case, which works "nice" for the added stability of the piece, though it sort of defeats the purpose of the mode. Cool sound overall though.

    I wrote Db instead of C# to conform with my "analysis", if I may call it that. Just to clear up where I'm coming from.
     
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    I'm still pretty sure that's F natural, not F sharp.
     

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