Russian Open G tuning on a 7

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  1. Digital Black

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    .....................There's also a long 7-string tradition in Russian guitar playing, probably a bit older, or at least more common in the 19th century, than the 6-string tradition; the tuning was mostly in 3rds, so that the low string was D (one step below our 6th string E), and the first string was also d (one step below our 1st string E). Nice G-major tuning. (DGBdgbd). Oleg Timofeev has some CDs out with some of the 7-string guitar music.

    Coste, and some other classical players in the 19th century, also had a seventh string (some had more, 10 or 11 being more common than 8 or 9, but only the lowest 7 had frets available for stopping the string). The seventh string was tuned to D below E. This means that some of their works are awkward to play: either we retune, and "mess up" some otherwise reasonable fingerings, or retain the fingerings (and hand shapes for chords) and lose access to the low D. While not exactly common, non-6-string guitars were more common then than now.

    :) I found some examples here--->http://www.orphee.com/rmcg/merida.htm


    I'd love to try this out but lack a 7 string acoustic....
     
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    That's confusing - so a regular 7 can't be tuned this way?
     
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    DGBdgbd ...... open g on a 7....
     
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    D-G-B-D-G-B-D is standard tuning for Russian 7-string guitar, appeared at the second half of 18th century, and adopted from harp. Intended for arpeggios and legato left hand passages. dobro has same tuning, but for the 6-string, appeared later (much later). this tuning is major key on open strings, and creating a chord with 7-strings, while spanish 6-string guitar can create a chord on open strings with only 4 strings.


    Found very interesting variation of russian standard 7-string tuning - D-G-C-D-G-A#-D - this is fully minor key tuning. with only 2nd and 5th strings changed.

    Another variations of standard major key Russian tuning - E-A-B-D-G-B-D, E-G-B-D-G-B-D, C-G-B-D-G-B-D Only 6th and 7th strings changing its tuning.
     
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    "H"?

    :scratch:

    Great sound files on that page, btw.
     
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    german H = american B
    german B = american Bb
     
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    Anyway, I using italian notation. Si-moll, to be correct. I have no idea what is it in USA, Germany, and anywhere else. A#, thats for sure is si-moll. What is A#? Bb?
     
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    Hmm, OK. That not gonna confuse me at all. :scream: :lol:

    Seriously, thanks for the explanation, bostjan. :yesway:
     
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    H replaced with A#. it's the same note we talking about, but it won't confuse anybody else, I hope...

    So open G minor key Russian tuning - D-G-C-D-G-A#-D, from 7th to 1st string, aterantive version, opposite to traditional russian 7-string major key 200 old tuning - D-G-B-D-G-B-D - open g major key.
     
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    Wow, yeah, that is confusing. I thought Italy was still using Do Re Mi…

    It could be worse, though, and you could use Fokker notation.

    There was a thread in the ERG subforum where I was trying to figure out eight string Russian tunings of this nature.
     
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    In Russia we also use it. Do-re-mi-fa-sol-la-si. Classical musical theory, no tabs..:lol: .
     

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