Recommend Me : Swing Jazz

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I know this isn't the kind of music SSO typically listens to, but I'm not gonna open a new account on another forum I'll never get back to just for that one thread :lol:

By very far, metal is most of what I listen to and like to play. I would listen to other things but it's just very hard to find that stuff. For metal, I have it very easy, I just browse band names on MetalStorm based on the subgenre I want to discover and put them into YouTube to find out if I like the stuff or not.

I don't have anything of that kind for any other genre of music though. So I want some help of people who already know the stuff. I might do more threads like that in the future, but let's do this one first.

I want to know who are the big/famous/classic artists who play swing jazz. Just swing jazz, because I don't find the rest of the genre very interesting. I know Django Reinhardt did some, I learnt Minor Swing back when I was taking lessons and I've listened to some more that he wrote. But that's just one name. I think if I had a good grasp of the biggest names in the genre, I'd have it much easier to find more stuff on my own, so I guess I just want to be... initiated ?

tl dr : swing jazz, halp. :wub:

EDIT : electro swing is welcome too.
 

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Highly recommend Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. They're part of the swing-revival movement in the 90s.





These guys, Diablo Swing Orchestra, are usually labeled as Jazz Metal except it's really just Swing Music with some electric guitars. They're very good.





And for a classic



Other classic artists include Glenn Miller and Duke Ellington.
 

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DO NOT listen to Big Bad Voodoo Daddy if you're seriously trying to listen to swing music :lol:

If you're generally bored by what you've heard, I'd highly recommend some Count Basie stuff. He delighted in having extreme dynamic changes and sudden blares. Buddy Rich rather obviously also is trying for maximum in-your-face attitude.

Try some of the really rude stuff, like this:




Some of the guys that bordered on swing/bop were awesome, like Thad Jones/Mel Lewis or Charles Mingus:



Duke Ellington was ALL over the map, if you look for him with no guidance you'll probably end up just hearing a couple of the most "safe" songs like Take the A Train or Satin Doll. Here's a really old but ridiculously fast train-themed one:



Another train-sounding one, this one bass-driven and really dirty:



Here's a famous one:

 

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Your post is ambiguous, are you looking for Swing-Era jazz or jazz that swings? Django played gypsy jazz.

It's fine if jazz isn't for you but I find it curious that you've dismissed one of the deepest genres of music without having, it seems, sampled much at all.
 

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Anyway Duke Ellington and Count Base fit both possibilities but while they're hugely influential, I don't think they're the best entry points personally.
 

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Anyway Duke Ellington and Count Base fit both possibilities but while they're hugely influential, I don't think they're the best entry points personally.

Then who is? Or is this a drive-by thread crapping?! :lol:
 

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Your post is ambiguous, are you looking for Swing-Era jazz or jazz that swings? Django played gypsy jazz.

It's fine if jazz isn't for you but I find it curious that you've dismissed one of the deepest genres of music without having, it seems, sampled much at all.

Yeah... I feel like jazz and metal branch out the most into different sub-genres, and sub-genres of sub-genres including crossing over into each other in still a wide spectrum of jazz influenced metal, and metal influenced jazz.

That's like someone dismissing all of metal because they heard Avenged Sevenfold.
 

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Yeah... I feel like jazz and metal branch out the most into different sub-genres, and sub-genres of sub-genres including crossing over into each other in still a wide spectrum of jazz influenced metal, and metal influenced jazz.

That's like someone dismissing all of metal because they heard Avenged Sevenfold.

It's mainly weird that he asks for Swing Jazz, considering it's what came before all the innovative genres that came after. It's not like dismissing metal for avenged sevenfold, it's like saying you're not interested in any rock written after 1964, or any metal written after 1983 or something.
 

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Then who is? Or is this a drive-by thread crapping?! :lol:

I don't think he's thread crapping. Dude actually posts himself playing jazz so I would think it's safe to assume he listens to it.

Advice for the OP: you can't just go off suggestions. Start with everything that is posted in this thread, go to spotify, click on "similar to". Finding what jazz artists you like is a journey just like finding whether you like stoner,thrash, death, deathcore, or any other sub genre of metal.

Yeah, big bad voodoo daddy is not good at all. Try Hot Sardines. Or try any jazz group with vocals. I think that the instrumental stuff can be lost on people getting into jazz. It's why I think John coltrane is a terrible starting point for people getting into the genre.
 

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I don't think he's thread crapping. Dude actually posts himself playing jazz so I would think it's safe to assume he listens to it.

Advice for the OP: you can't just go off suggestions. Start with everything that is posted in this thread, go to spotify, click on "similar to". Finding what jazz artists you like is a journey just like finding whether you like stoner,thrash, death, deathcore, or any other sub genre of metal.

Yeah, big bad voodoo daddy is not good at all. Try Hot Sardines. Or try any jazz group with vocals. I think that the instrumental stuff can be lost on people getting into jazz. It's why I think John coltrane is a terrible starting point for people getting into the genre.

Well, I believe that he knows about jazz, but to come into a thread and go "EVERYTHING HERE IS WRONG" and leave isn't exactly constructive posting!

Vocal jazz is very controversial. A very large proportion of jazz fans hate all of it. I dislike the majority of what I've heard. The lyrics tend to be really in your face and cheesy, and if they're not originals, it's often taking jazz classics and converting the melodies into vocal lines with bad lyrics and it just hurts to listen to if you're familiar with the instrumental versions, especially if you like them.

One of the very few jazz vocalists I really like is Gregory Porter, who does almost entirely originals. He has the voice of one of those classic 60s R&B singers instead of some super-smooth cheese-ster like Kurt Elling or Al Jarreau or whoever.



The really smoky women like Diana Krall or Eliane Elias have sexy voices, but I don't really get into the music from a jazz perspective. About the only stuff with jazz vocals I REALLY get excited about is the modern stuff with vocalise, ex this track with an early vocal appearance by Esperanza Spalding (now quite famous):



Or anything by Pat Metheny or Tigran Hamasyan or Maria Schneider with vocals. Pat Metheny even has an album or two with lyrics which are good! (Maybe cause they're not in English so I can't tell if they're cheesy)



(this is a vocal version of "tell her you saw me" from Secret Story, this one is on his album with Anna Marie Jopek)
 

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I was waiting to hear what the OP is actually meaning by swing jazz. Pat Metheny and Tigran Hamasyan are both pretty great, I would say Tigran has some stuff that's quite accessible especially from a metal background.

I don't like vocals either but some of the singers are prodigious artists, Ella Fitzgerald is another.
 

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Okay, so just to clarify.

When someone gives me music to listen to, I listen to it. And I've found most jazz I've been shown so far to either be quite boring elevator music, or complete chaos. But swing stuff I enjoy, it's energetic without being chaos to my ears. So that's why I'm asking. And I've never seen "swing blues" or "swing rock" either, so yeah, swing jazz.

Also, if you have no answer to my actual demand, please don't contribute. I don't want this thread to become a sh*tstorm over genres/subgenres or whatever. Thanks.

And yes, I know Django Reinhardt played gypsy jazz. I also know that I find his songs that don't have the word "swing" in the title to be quite boring, for the most part. Excuse me for making a link where there's an obvious one to be made, I guess ?

As for those who say Big Bad Voodoo Daddy isn't good at all, it's by very far what I liked the most from all the YouTube links that got posted in here. I listened to all the links. i'll check out the other artists that were just mentioned by name later on.
 

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I'm glad to see that this has turned into a true jazz thread already. Brings a tear to my eye.
 

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Well yeah, it kind of has to considering how narrow "Swing Jazz" is. Porgy and Bess is assuredly not "Swing Jazz," it's beyond that. Great album, though. Anything by Gil Evans is well worth listening to, he always did really rich arrangements. Maria Schneider is probably the best modern equivalent.
 

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Diablo Swing Orchestra that was linked above are crazy good, swing mixed with metal and opera vocals on top of that. For electro swing, check out Parov Stelar, Caro Emerald, Caravan Palace. There's tons of megamixes with several hours of swing and electro swing on Youtube, you're bound to find something you like on there.
 

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I already know about Parov Stelar and Caro Emerald ! I had almost forgotten about them, haha. This thread is full of suggestions and I need some TIME to listen to all that stuff :lol:
 

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As for those who say Big Bad Voodoo Daddy isn't good at all, it's by very far what I liked the most...

I don't get the dislike for them either... their Cab Calloway tribute album is great. Some of what I assume is their older stuff does suffer from poor production though...

In the same vein check out the Cherry Poppin' Daddies - I bought their Zoot Suit Riot album close to twenty years ago now and it still gets pulled out from time to time. Master and Slave is a fantastic song...
 


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