you said it right, man. exactly. it's a different ball game. i'm not going to say what i do for a living, but there's are serious copyright and related issues that have forced those in my industry to work for little or no pay. but i still don't want to see people sued over it. it's something i have to deal with or get out. and i'm dealing with it. i think about it and share what i know with the other colleagues and we try to make it better. one of my teachers said it best i think, "the genie is out of the bottle." you can agree or disagree with downloading, but it's here to stay. going after downloaders won't ever change that. to me, it becomes ethically wrong when you record or copy illegally and then make a profit from someone else's work. in my field, they call it "aggregating" and the biggest names do it. the biggest. but the bottom line is you have to offer something that is worth paying for when you're dealing with intangibles. downloading a CD is not the same as shoplifting one from a store. sorry, different. if it's worth it, people will buy it. and you can complain and cry and ask "why lord why?" but this is how it is.