Price of lumber on the rise

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  1. thebeesknees22

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    LOOL, dude you're so right. They totally are hahaha
     
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    We have a Ben Soleimani laying around here somewhere (literally).

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    Seabeast2000 Tropospheric Holocenian Contributor

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    Wow.
     
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    I started working there back when they only sold two towels, they were both white, and both sucked. Back when all of their wood furniture was made in Northern California, and all of their upholstery but one sofa was made in North Carolina. When they sold 5 paint colors, and none were grey. I left about 10 years ago, just as they were starting to close stores in favor of their new "galleries" concept where they took over historical buildings. Just as they were almost complete with their shift from "Americana" to "Boho/Belgian Farmhouse chic", where everything is imported.
     
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    So I'm guessing that's a no on the employee discount for some more Ben Soleimanis...
     
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    Funny, eh? Real estate and construction costs have gone through the roofs but rents have actually declined during the pandemic. The masses didn't actually get their dues.
     
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    It's the same everywhere. I had a chicken coop built, it should be finished this week but the guy complained lumber was hard to come by these days. The bottleneck lies in the supply of raw Materials. He hasn't talked zbout a price increase though

    We use aluminium metalstuds and plagyp stuff for drywall construction, prices increased about 30% this month and they'll probably rise again next month.

    Same for PUR insolation materials, prices are going up at least once a month.

    This is a huge PITA for contractors. Try and make a competitive estiment for a job while also keeping it high enough to cover the costs. Were sort of gambling right now..
     
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    my sex bed was a restoration hardware.

    sturdy as bed ya'll

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    *edit my previous post: metalstuds and plagyp are made of zinc coated sheet metal instead of aluminium.
     
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    Where did rent go down? When has rent ever gone down?
     
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    rent in the Greater Toronto Area has plummeted since the PANDA-party started. moreso for condos than anything else.
    there has been a mass exodus from Toronto, to Hamilton, and other parts of Ontario.

    However, they are ever so slightly creeping up again
     
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    I already complained in another thread, but...

    We are having a house built. Due to the boom, us spec'ing a walk-out basement, and procuring materials, my current build time is 12 months. Regular build time here in VA is about 9 months (no basement).

    There is no negotiating. Current builds sell within 5 days of posting; at or above asking. You make an offer like eBay auctions. E.g., Asking is $500k, so I'm offering $500k, but I'm willing to go to $550k. I guess your agents negotiate it on the honor system.

    Built homes just are whatever the build price is, and there have been two $20k hikes since January 2021.

    The average price of a deck with the built homes went from $5-7k to $20k, so we are skipping that for now. Strangely the price of a screened-in porch and hardwood flooring throughout did not increase as much (with respect to being passed on to the buyer).

    What I'm most scared of is the Design Studio. I'm worried the price of tile, hardware, faucets, etc. will also be inflated.

    The other issue is rates are historically low. But we're mostly at the mercy of whatever rates may be in a year. Mostly.
     
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    Shit, I'm literally about to start a woodworking apprenticeship in 2 weeks, and leaving a 12 year career in the booze industry to do so. My friend who I'll be learning under is a master craftsman though, so I have no doubts that this move is worth it in the long term. Unfortunately the price of lumber is going to be a difficult factor to balance with the cost of his expertise, so that means the best way to offset that to price competitively while retaining high quality is to increase our efficiency as much as possible. I figured since I've taught myself how to use a DAW fluently, and have taught myself to use Photoshop for professional design and illustration, now it's time to jump in and learn 3D CAD. It's never exactly fun to learn complicated ass software from scratch, but hey, part of why I took his offer on this apprenticeship is because I know it'll make my bucket list dream of building my own guitar designs a reality some day. And fuck yes I will!
     
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    I priced 4x8 sheets of siding for my shed... 78 bucks a piece is a hard pass.

    My buddy just bought a new townhouse... he is getting a deck put on.... whst was normally like 5k is now almost 15k. It is insane.

    House inventory here where i live is pretty bad unless you have really deep pockets.
     
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    I started building the workbench from Chris Schwarz’s book The Anarchists Workbench. Went from a remarkably affordable project to something that’s just gonna have to wait a while to finish. The cost to build the base and legs skyrocketed.
     
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    I'm pretty much single-handedly remodeling our whole house right now, slowly but surely. The price increases on materials certainly suck, but the way I look at it is I would rather capitalize on having the time/energy/skill (and, most importantly, permission from the boss/wife) at my disposal than holding off due to costs being undesirable. Just gotta be smart about it and realize when you need to side-step certain items and/or timing of some jobs differently.

    It's also damn near impossible to get any sort of contractor with availability in their schedule to get something done in a timely fashion, so I guess I also absorb the cost increases in materials with not having to pay for labor or be subject to someone else's schedule.
     
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    KnightBrolaire only the dead have seen the end of GAS

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    You said you left about 10 years ago; I noticed on RH's wikipedia page that they went to market with a second IPO around the same time (in 2012/13). It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of what you describe was cost-cutting from "just-in-time manufacture", which, among other things, removes overhead from warehousing by effecting changes in the supply chain.

    That may be common knowledge these days but it only makes it more sad. We're wrecking the planet with all those unnecessary emissions, just to satisfy demand for global trade and to generate greater profits that most of us will never see the benefits of regardless.
     
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    Yep. I was there from 2001 to 2010, if i remember right.

    When I left, it was after they had launched their "Baby & Child" sub-brand nation-wide (my local store was the test store). This was already a few years into this "just in time" change. You know how many times we had to tell people that the cribs they ordered while 5 months pregnant and expected to deliver in the next month were now on a 10-month back-order? Or that the "0-6 mo" sized clothing items were back-ordered for 6 months? What a shit-show that turned our to be (and continues to be).
     
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    It’s insane. The average house stays on market here about a day, and you’re competing with cash offers, way over asking price, no contingencies, waiving appraisal and inspection, 7 day escrows. We are getting an enormous influx of New Yorkers and Californians.

    The smartest thing anyone could do right now is, instead of sell, go get a HELOC with the overinflated value.
     
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