Petrucci 8 String Possibility?

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  1. MaxOfMetal

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    Jesus Fucking Christ
     
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    and keep hoping.

    there is no industry standard when it comes to multiscales. Everyone does differetn scales, different parallel frets and different way to angle the pickups. Some the right angle, some less, some wont angle the bridge at it should and copy the neck angle

    what you can do however, is to buy a set with no covers an swap the baseplates between the Dimarzios and your guitar. Check first the bobbin size tho, but all of them are standard sized bobbins so this shouldnt be an issue..... you might have to cut the excess of the screws under the pickup tho
     
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    I mean, I don't even play 8-strings (yet) nor have any multi-scale guitars so it doesn't really matter to me. I just think it'd be cool for DiMarzio to enter that niche of the market, like Seymour Duncan has recently done with the LTD M-1000 and M-1008 multi-scales.

    I've heard a lot about swapping the baseplates. Does it work for models like the RGMS7 and RGMS8? It looks like the bobbins on those are different lengths from standard (even the bridge and neck pickups seem to have different bobbin lengths from each other).
     
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    He did have a signature baritone that was 27.5" that EBMM made for almost a decade. Pretty sure he's fine with a long scale. I think the short side will be close to 25.5" which is what he's used to for leads. He's an average sized dude. So I imagine he'll have similar physical obstacles to any of us here of average size, just with his insane chops. A 2" fan seems about right to me. Mine is longer and feels great.
     
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    The bobbins have to be different lengths. The pole spacing will be wider the more aggressive the slant is, requiring a longer bobbin too. Swapping base plates alone isn't going to work. You'd need new bobbins too. This changes the total number of wraps of wire a little as well if using the same wire length from the original pickup, and could affect how long the magnet needs to be. There's no simple fix. It changes a lot of the things that affect the tone, so the same sort of engineering that goes into making an 8 string version of a pickup will have to go into making a multiscale version of an 8 string pickup.
     
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    Petrucci also used a Silhouette Bass VI for a while before getting his BFR baritone. Can't find the picture right now, though. They are 29.625" scale.
     
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    More than ever, I’m convinced Thaeon has what can be considered the “best” 8 string, in terms of the ergonomics,neo pup and perfect scale and novel fan.....man, I want your guitar
     
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    Ughh... we settled this like 5 pages ago
     
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    There are quite a few Oni owners on this board. Oniduder has a couple, I think six total including some that he let go IIRC. Bostjan has some pretty interesting examples of early work. Trust me, your's will be just as good. Maybe better. Dan is always tinkering to improve the Essi. I'm pretty sure I want an Essi 6 and a B Type 6 at some point. Dan's inline headstock design is one of the best looking there is.
     
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    These ones?
    Arm....jpg
    jprackguitars.jpg
     
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    Wikipedia says Bb and A.
     
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    Everything shrinks with age.

    I strongly suspect that this also applies to the potential scale length in this case.
     
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    You are so right about that; I thought it was just me ::embarrassed:: lol j/k but its true, it does.....generally speaking for the most part.

    However, what is of more curiosity to me, and I hope this doesn't count as a derailment, but why is he playing a bass? What is the songs or albums featured him on bass in this way? and is he possibly playing it like a Meshuggah scale guitar???

    This is the first I've seen of this, and I am a fan of his so total shock
     
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    Panic Attack, These Walls, and Blind Faith were all written on those Silhouettes before he got his sig baritone. And I don't think he got the baritone sig until 2007 after Systematic Chaos came out.
     
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    From what I remember, he used the Silhouette Bass VI for the recording of Blind Faith, which was tuned to A standard I believe. Likely because there were no other baritones made by EBMM at the time. He since had custom baritone BFR's made, which he used for a few songs on the Octavarium album.
     
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    I'm kinda surprised he never built a 7 string with a 27" + scale.
     
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    My guess: solos.
     
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