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I mean... come on guys, how many of you would've sold the shit out of a couple of your guitars if you could sell them at exorbitant price? :lol: It's not Misha's problem that someone is delusional enough to drop $9k (assuming someone indeed is).
 

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When it comes down to it no one is owed a luxury guitar let alone one by a "celebrity". It's not exploiting when it's not taking advantage of people. Exploitation by modern terms happens when someone is forced into a certain position and someone takes advantage of that.

Like food and water, shelter, medicine you will pay whatever necessary to survive even if it gets inflated. Or even emotional things lile the wedding industry, baby products etc massively over charge because of people's emotional investment making it feel like a need more than a want.

In this case it's not exploiting, it's
symbiotic except for the unlikely case of someone with mental health issues who is hyper obsessed with periphery and puts this all on credit instead of basic needs. In that case it's hard to fault anyone anyways because someone of that nature could have spent it on anything else anyways.

I'm literally a democraric socialist and its hard for me to grasp how a relationship in which two people benefit from the outcome (in this case a die hard periphery/misha fan getting there dream and Misha getting fat cash) is toxic or exploitive.

This isn't artificially inflated rent, medicine, Healthcare, food, or anything else. This is a fucking luxury guitar that might have sentimental value or other worth to Misha or the person buying it.
 

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If these were the prices five years ago he'd be on crack. But with what's happened the past couple of years I don't think they're that egregious. No less egregious than what huge manufacturers are charging now.
 

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In the best case Misha gets a few thousand bucks from this and otherwise at least someone talks again about periphery with absolute minimal effort from his/their side.
 

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Oh shit, he's price dropping everything by 10 percent. "Just have funds with it"
 

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Oh shit, he's price dropping everything by 10 percent. "Just have funds with it"
And not just 10%, The JP7 dropped from 9229€ to 6665€.

Still think it's way too high. I'd say it's a 3999€ guitar for the person who really appreciates the sentimental value.
 

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And not just 10%, The JP7 dropped from 9229€ to 6665€.

Still think it's way too high. I'd say it's a 3999€ guitar for the person who really appreciates the sentimental value.
Yeah, he's discounted it again since my post. Kind of erodes the whole sentimental argument for pricing. He wants these things to move.
 

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Addressing both:

Yes plenty of people at all income levels enjoy Periphery. But they don’t sell millions of albums so the fan base isn’t as large as this one member’s income would suggest. He’s got as much as he’s got by making smart business decisions. Those are his words. Not mine. I find exorbitant pricing to be exploitative regardless of whether or not someone else is willing to pay. Who owned the instrument, the songs written on it, and the albums it was featured on don’t inherently increase its intrinsic value as an instrument. They’re still just guitars in the end. They aren’t old or out of production. I’m not faulting Misha for it. This is how capitalism works. Exploitation for profit. He’s playing the capitalism game really well. There ARE people who will be willing to pay for this stuff. My opinion is that it’s ridiculous whether it’s Clapton or a barely scraping by band. 1 million for a strat is stupid. Just like 15k for a Jackson is. But it’s absolutely a cash grab. And you know that it was likely instigated by Reverb themselves who looks at these influential players and see dollar signs. And part of my position is that I’m vehemently anti-capitalism. So absolutely take everything I say with a grain of salt. My worldview may be directly in opposition to your’s. I’m not here to change anyone’s mind.
Anti capitalism? Thaeon is dopey. I think Misha is a putz. But good on him for making a career at music selling over priced gear. If you’re anti capitalism go listen to Gorky Park and play triangle guitars. You can’t even be a musician and not support capitalism.
 

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Anti capitalism? Thaeon is dopey. I think Misha is a putz. But good on him for making a career at music selling over priced gear. If you’re anti capitalism go listen to Gorky Park and play triangle guitars. You can’t even be a musician and not support capitalism.
Username checks out. Great usage of putz too. 11/7 would go fishing with
 

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Anti capitalism? Thaeon is dopey. I think Misha is a putz. But good on him for making a career at music selling over priced gear. If you’re anti capitalism go listen to Gorky Park and play triangle guitars. You can’t even be a musician and not support capitalism.
Adorable.

Survival necessitates participation in it. That doesn’t mean I agree with it, or that I’ll not undermine it wherever possible.
 

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Adorable.

Survival necessitates participation in it. That doesn’t mean I agree with it, or that I’ll not undermine it wherever possible.
The cool part of capitalism is that somoene could have $10 million and buy one of those guitars without even noticing the money is gone. It doesn't affect them and still doesn't affect you. You don't get to dictate what the market is for something like that. You only get to decide you won't pay those prices. You can still go on with your day punching air and shaking your fist at clouds.
 

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The cool part of capitalism is that somoene could have $10 million and buy one of those guitars without even noticing the money is gone. It doesn't affect them and still doesn't affect you. You don't get to dictate what the market is for something like that. You only get to decide you won't pay those prices. You can still go on with your day punching air and shaking your fist at clouds.

You say that’s a cool part of capitalism. The fact that one person can buy something over priced and not notice it while another person couldn’t even dream of it is one of the WORST things about capitalism. Wealth is oppression.
 

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Not wanting to act like a moderator, yet maybe keep the personal politics out of a band thread?

I arrived late to the party andI probably wouldn’t have bought anything from the sale, but I would have been curious to see what was floating around in his studio, and what he didn’t like enough to keep...
 

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Well this thread has devolved. Funny seeing people on a guitar forum that revolves around "GAS" and buying shit that you don't need on impulse having people angry about capitalism.
I posted the original comment about the sale and have not commented since because of how much a shitshow this thread quickly went.

Guys, if you don't like it, here's the good news, you don't have to buy anything or really do anything about it. Move on, touch grass.
 


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