Opinions on an H/S setup for a metal guitar

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  1. Meeotch

    Meeotch SS.org Regular

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    I've always owned guitars with an H/H setup. Generally speaking, I use the bridge humbucker for both rhythm and leads, and tend to only use the neck humbucker for cleans. There are exceptions, as sometimes I do enjoy the warm lead tones from a neck humbucker, but I find myself wondering if I'd get better clean tones from a single coil neck pickup.

    Sure tone is subjective, but is there a general consensus on the H/S setup?
     
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    Do you have a split-coil contol for your neck pickup? If not, if your pickup is a 4-conductor pickup, you might be able to add a coil split switch or a push-pull pot. That would get you...50-90% of the way to the tone of a real single coil.

    My favorite tone on my dual-humbucker guitar is middle pickup switch position (both pickups), split.
     
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    KnightBrolaire grossly incandescent

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    completely depends on the individual pickups. There's plenty of mediocre single coils and humbuckers out there :shrug:
     
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    Yeah I could always wire it up for a coil split, but like you said it's still not quite the same. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but I was just curious if other players might prefer a single coil for their cleans? It seems like most metal and hard rock oriented guitars come stock with H/H, so maybe it really just comes down to personal preference.
     
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    H/S is a good time.
     
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    H/S is awesome.
    Im planning it on my Inca Strat project.
     
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    Emperoff Hasta la vista, Baby Contributor

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    I wish H/S was the standard.
     
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    I kind of want a P90 in the neck for my next guitar
     
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    budda Guiterrorizer Contributor

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    The prs SE sig SC thats H/P90 looks like a very good time.
     
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    Single-coils in the neck are great!

    Like everything, it depends on what sound you want. Sometimes I want a H in the neck, sometimes I want a S in the neck.

    As others have mentioned, just like H's, there are good, great, and bad S's.

    Noiseless S's can be pretty good, but nothing really beats a good 'true' S-coil pickup.

    Sometimes people forget that even metal albums will feature S-coil's on various parts (especially for clean passages). Having a guitar with a good S-coil is a great tool to have!
     
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    why not hss? get warm tone from ss
     
  12. Meeotch

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    I'm thinking this pretty much sums it up. If I'm going to own several guitars, one might as well be H/S. Then I can answer the question myself!

    I have no experience with single coils. Can you mount them in place of a humbucker or would you have to do some drilling? And then your route would look goofy?
     
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    Not a fan of middle pickups, but thanks for the suggestion. I find they just get in the way.
     
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    I mean, it works for Galneryus. I think half of Syu's sigs are H/S.
     
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    Hmm, it probably depends on the specifics of the routes and the single-coils themselves; however, I'm pretty certain you can put a single-coil into your average humbucker route. It will leave a lot of extra space in the route and look 'goofy,' but you might be able to find pickup rings that fill in that gap. I'm not too sure as I've never looked into this much before.
     
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    I feel like I would love an H/S setup. Feel like it would simplifying things and still be enough options, especially if you can split the bridge.
     
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    +1 for the P90 recommendation! :agreed:

    Split coils generally never sound as good as single coils IMO. That said I do like split coils in my bridge, since I often find bridge singles have too much bite.

    You might want to consider an SSH. You can always put a hotter (bridge) pickup in the middle and then lower it further to get it out of the way. That said, if you're hitting the middle pickup with your pick your not picking correctly IMO. Anyways, the reason for the SSH is you're missing out on the 2, 3, and 4 positions, which are some of the best cleans out there.

    FWIW There's also a difference between split and tapped coils. Choose wisely.
     
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    Live dangerously, try a strat.
     
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    This is probably true. It's actually been years since I've owned a guitar with a middle pickup...like over a decade, and back when I was still a newbie. It might be worth trying one...maybe one of those HM strats!
     
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    ^ Very good choice. Or a Charvel DK24.

    The ultimate SH guitar for me would be a MIJ Charvel Predator, but just change out the stacked HB. Or a Caparison Horus if you want a more modern and expensive version.
     

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