On a Quest for a Versatile Stoner/Doom Head

Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by Mr-Jemhead93, Sep 5, 2019.

  1. vilk

    vilk Very Regular

    Messages:
    5,387
    Likes Received:
    1,814
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2013
    Location:
    Chicago
    My Sunn has two effects loops, and I still just always put everything in front because I'm too lazy. Does it really make such a difference to put your delay and reverb in the loop? Yes, you'll want to put them after the dirt on your pedalboard.

    I've got my delay and reverb in front of the amp, the other guitarist in my band is going in the loop, but I don't think his necessarily sounds any better or different than mine. I'm curious to know why people started doing that in the first place.
     
  2. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

    Messages:
    32,157
    Likes Received:
    13,900
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Location:
    Racine, WI
    Traditionally, most delay and modulation effects work "better", as in how they were designed to sound, post distortion.

    That's because if you have the delay trails or layered modulated signal before distortion those will also become distorted and in most cases you get either a mess, artifacts, or the effect simple won't work in the case of anything mono-phonic.

    The easiest way to see this is to just try it out.

    Take a distortion pedal, a delay pedal, and a clean amp. Play with the distortion before and after the delay and see how different it sounds.
     
  3. Vostre Roy

    Vostre Roy Disciple of Djod

    Messages:
    2,292
    Likes Received:
    506
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2011
    Location:
    Rouyn, Qc, Canada
    I've had very good results with my Ceriatone HRM100 MKII retubed with 6CA7 power tubes. That thing is loud as balls and take pedals so damn very well (only downside being it doesn't have a proper built-in fx loop). Actually, just put some 6CA7 tubes in an EL34 ready head and expect the bass response of the 6L6 and some of the fizz of the EL34, so far they have been my favorite set for doom-ish tones.

    But as it was pointed out, a very loud and clean amp with good pedals in front will do wonders. Kinda wish that my Traynor YBA-1 would actually work properly, was a mess inside when I acquired it and could never find the issue (only original parts left are diodes and transformers, and I suspect that the OT Tranny is on the top of my suspect list).
     
  4. Winspear

    Winspear Tom Winspear

    Messages:
    11,319
    Likes Received:
    1,987
    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    Location:
    Yorkshire, U.K
    Yeah, sounds like you're using pedalboard dirt - you acknowledged the reason why yourself - because people are using amp dirt :) Effects out front run into a good clean amp isn't as much of a problem.
     
  5. Winspear

    Winspear Tom Winspear

    Messages:
    11,319
    Likes Received:
    1,987
    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    Location:
    Yorkshire, U.K
    Cool! I've been wanting to pick one up after hearing a couple of clips of it used in a metal context (even without pedals).
     
  6. vilk

    vilk Very Regular

    Messages:
    5,387
    Likes Received:
    1,814
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2013
    Location:
    Chicago
    Question! Traynor YBA-1 seems to be associated with stoner/doom, but which bands/albums use that amp?
     
  7. sharedEQ

    sharedEQ SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    122
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2016
    Location:
    Washington, DC
    Laney Ironheart takes pedals really well and has a very versatile EQ.
     
  8. cGoEcYk

    cGoEcYk SS.org Regular

    Messages:
    1,957
    Likes Received:
    204
    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2011
    Location:
    New Mexico
    If anyone can coach me on how to get something in the ballpark of that Fender Bassman on my Dual Rec, I would be intrigued! I have played around with d00ms and get enjoyable sounds but still a bit recto-ey.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.