narad
Progressive metal and politics
Seems fair to me
Official Daemoness Guitars Thread
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Seems fair to me
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+1 for STD
JimF
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I had a similar thing with another flat topped guitar and found I could eliminate it by raising the strap. You might get a more forearm friendly angle by raising or lowering the guitar.
My issue was numbness in my hand though, not bruising.
Style of the logo is fine, I'm mostly referring to the aesthetic of the text itself. I like the shape of "E-II", I just don't like the combination of letters and Roman numerals as a brand name.
I also like some variations of the Edwards logo with different typeset more than others
Here's a clearly unpopular take:
I don't hate the idea of ESP on an LTD, as long as the "LTD" is somewhere obvious enough that it's not an attempted fake. One way I've considered doing it before is "ESP" on the front of the headstock and the "LTD" on the back in the circle the way "ESP custom shop" appears on custom shop models.
Reminds me of how some Squiers used to read "Fender" in the large logo and "Squier Series" out on the end.
If the real pedigree is printed somewhere permanent enough that you're not trying to trick anyone, I don't think it's dishonest.
I don't hate the idea of ESP on an LTD, as long as the "LTD" is somewhere obvious enough that it's not an attempted fake. One way I've considered doing it before is "ESP" on the front of the headstock and the "LTD" on the back in the circle the way "ESP custom shop" appears on custom shop models.
Reminds me of how some Squiers used to read "Fender" in the large logo and "Squier Series" out on the end.
If the real pedigree is printed somewhere permanent enough that you're not trying to trick anyone, I don't think it's dishonest.
Albake21
Ibanez Nerd
Strap, as in standing? This is SSO. I'm a bedroom musician, with too much gear for my own good, who plays sitting down 99% of the time.
Jokes aside, I did try it with a strap and noticed it being a bit easier on the forearm, but man I miss my forearm contours from my Ibanez when playing it.
See that's what I said I'd do from the start, but then was roasted for it regardless.Here's a clearly unpopular take:
I don't hate the idea of ESP on an LTD, as long as the "LTD" is somewhere obvious enough that it's not an attempted fake. One way I've considered doing it before is "ESP" on the front of the headstock and the "LTD" on the back in the circle the way "ESP custom shop" appears on custom shop models.
Reminds me of how some Squiers used to read "Fender" in the large logo and "Squier Series" out on the end.
If the real pedigree is printed somewhere permanent enough that you're not trying to trick anyone, I don't think it's dishonest.
I'm not above being roasted on here either, so that's alrightSee that's what I said I'd do from the start, but then was roasted for it regardless.
I get if people have an ideological issue with it but like I said, I happen to like the aesthetic of the ESP logo unrelated to the difference in tier. I'd rather have Edwards or even Grass Roots on my headstock before LTD, despite LTD debatably being more expensive than either of those stateside.
I get that the immediate interpretation is that ESP on an LTD is some stolen valor or scammer thing but it just looks better. If ESP was the cheaper brand and LTD the more expensive one, I'd still consider ESP a better look.
EDIT: FWIW, there's a guy locally that had an LTD modded and refinished with the ESP logo on it, and it sat forever with the price dropping hilariously low. For the handful of people that would be "tricked" or enticed by seeing the ESP logo, the bulk of people don't love the idea clearly. So it's not like swapping logos (unless you're going full counterfeit) is a thing you do expecting to get the guitar to sell faster or for more.
I saw this one on Reverb. While not a big Pantera man, I really love this thing. It's easily the best ML style I've seen.
I'd fuck it
narad
Progressive metal and politics
Hey we want some good news every now and then. If that means ESPs in the daemoness thread, so be it lol
M3CHK1LLA
angel sword guardian
no...
esp's are the only one between the two still being built atm...
Ass to mouth???
-DTP-
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This is now the official SSO off topic thread
JimF
Contributor
Not like there's any Daemoness news is there!
IbanezDaemon
Raptus regaliter
Tumbleweed! But on ESP...has anyone seen the shit show on Chondro Guitars vs ESP Custom Shop? Lawsuit incoming on that and I don't mean the ESP Headstock.
I did watch a KDH video he uploaded today about it. Does not look pretty, tbh. I wonder what will come of it.
JimF
Contributor
Yeah it's not a great situation, screams of a far away manager looking at a paperwork and thinking "fuck this guy with no store anymore"
massive international company vs. a little store. wonder what will happen
IbanezDaemon
Raptus regaliter
@Alberto7 @JimF @drmosh Yep an absolute shitshow! I'm on Chondro's group on FB. I mean the guy got at least one award from ESP when he was a basement dealer so what's the difference now that he has closed his actual shop? Bad, bad move from ESP...they have gone down a lot in my estimation. I see some other affiliated dealers have stepped in offering to help but at what cost and time scale....I mean are guys with CS orders with those dealers now expected to wait longer after ESP seriously dropped the ball?
