Official Daemoness Guitars Thread

Discussion in 'Dealers & Group Buys' started by Joe Harvatt, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. drmosh

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    who are they? seems like the opposite of sophisticated :) sophisticunts
     
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    Siggi Brauns got you covered

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    Blytheryn Musical Adam West

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    Why does that inlay feel like something that in theory could be incredibly cool, but with that execution just looks like something you'd see on the wall of a fourth grade classroom?
     
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    The shape of the V too :( nailed the hellraiser red though
     
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    Your question was rhetorical but I'll answer it anyway.

    I think why it could be cool in theory is that: it is a popular theme (space); the concept is sequential which adapts well to inlay design (there are 9 inlays on most 22 fret guitars, for example); planets have a variety of colours, which lends itself to the beauty of using different inlay materials (in theory); and themed sequential inlay designs have historically been popular among guitarists (e.g. Hetfield's Wolf and Man inlay design, or even some of the PRS bird stuff, etc.)

    The reason why it doesn't work in my opinion:

    Traditional inlay design is a very 'flat' art style not unlike stencil, screenprint, marquetry, and so on. The best designs are adapted to the medium and its limitations.

    Because these art styles are heavily abstracted, non-artists tend to visualise designs poorly.

    It isn't uncommon to see really shit marquetry, for example. More complex pieces need to be larger and use smaller inlays of wood to simulate shape and colour. Shading is basically impossible at a certain size because it isn't possible to produce a gradient from many small 'puzzle pieces' of wood like you can with large compositions.

    This is why the best marquetry is often geometric. It embraces the art form rather than trying to emulate other styles. You can find really high-concept stuff out there now because you can design on the computer and achieve greater complexity via CNC, but at that point the medium becomes a novelty, in my opinion.

    With this inlay they just cut uniform circles and filled them in with different inlay materials to form the planets. They're basically expensive stickers...which is why they look like expensive stickers.

    The fact Dylan comes at inlay design from an artist's perspective rather than a woodworker's explains a lot of his success. He uses different techniques and materials than most luthiers do. He is also very clever with playing to the strengths of his medium (e.g. using wood grain to complement his design vs. filling in an arbitrary design with pieces of wood), which he's often exploited to great effect.
     
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    Actually, I find that's really why the above inlay looks so shit. You can't take a red and black guitar and throw a rainbow on the fretboard.
     
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    Yeah, but that inlay on a PRS Di Meola would be amazing, right?
     
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    It's the difference between a craftsman and an artist. Dylan is both, and it's the artistry that sells the guitars. Another example is Kiesel vs someone like Simon Padalka. Kiesels are made really well, and play really well. But their shapes are just different guitar shapes. But Padalka has shapes that make you want to stare at them for hours, because he just nails the artistry of it.
     
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    Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I said 'in theory' because it seems convenient that you can find inlay materials for all the different colours you'd need. However, the end result ends up looking garish, not only because of the variety of colours used but also their lack of hue and shading. It's what gives that 'cheap sticker' look.
     
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    Agreed, his vintagey stuff and the sick neck joint are my type of thing but this one is just terrible.
     
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    Its a renaissance painting butt
     
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    apple bottom Vs with the boots and the fur
     
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    Yo angry guy, what happened with your deposit?
     
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    He obviously got it back, didn't you hear how insistent he was? Either that or Dylan is in an oil drum at the bottom of the River Thames.
     
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    Bristol Channel more likely.
     
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    Has anyone received an update? I sent a few emails but haven’t heard anything since the beginning of November after I sent in my 2nd deposit. They were supposed to be going to the lumber yard for my build but no update yet - will keep you guys posted but let me know if you’ve heard anything. Thanks!
     

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