Nutbuster: Gimmick or is it the real deal?

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  1. JustinRhoads1980

    JustinRhoads1980 Jackson Elitist

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    So I have been having some issues with a decision about a Charvel dilemma I am having. I am mainly a Floyd guy, but love the dk24 2pt series.

    The problem is I owned one and even with a good setup and proper intonation the tuning stability was meh, so I returned the guitar, but I have been regretting it.

    I happened to stumble upon this piece of equipment called the Nutbuster (don't laugh) and I saw a few people talk/demo it like Darrell Braun and TTK. I was wondering do you guys think this thing is a complete BS gimmick or can it actually transform a traditional type tremolo guitar to be a shit ton more stable when doing bends and dime squeals and shit?
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    It seems like it makes sense, but I do worry about it just being not what it is hyped up to be. Plus the added fact that it is $175 also makes me want to reassure that it is legit.

    Does anyone have any experience with this?
     
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    I fail to see how this would work better than locking tuners. That said, I have zero experience with it.
     
  3. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    It's just a locking nut. It will do what a locking nut does and take the nut and all string length behind it out of the equation.

    You'll still need to set the bridge up properly, and being single locking you won't have complete double locking stability, but it'll probably be close enough.

    There are a number of similar products out there, from the Super V, to Floyd's behind the nut style, and Kahler had been making something like this for decades.
     
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    So with this do you think it would be better options wise for me to take this and put it onto a non locking trem to give me somewhat of the experience of it? I know how to do setups so setting up the bridge won't be an issue at all.
     
  5. MaxOfMetal

    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    Just get a guitar with the bridge you want, or pay for a full FR install, at $175 plus shipping, it's not like you aren't already invested.
     
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    Wilkinson's locking saddles for 2-point trems may be worth looking into, as well.
     
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    In combo with locking tuners should be pretty stable no?
     
  8. c7spheres

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    I see the lock nut part of it but what are the knurled thumb screws for? It's a niche product for people that don't want to modify the guitar at all.
     
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    A locking nut prevents you from using your tuners. it's why floyds have fine tuners. This is meant to be used with other trems that don't have their own fine tuners.

    This doesn't actually attach to the neck. It floats above it, while hanging on to the strings. I've never touched a guitar with one, but i can't help but imagine that dive bumbing would make it "knock" as it goes back into place once the strings are pull taut again, no?
     
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    I don't know man. I now it don't attache to the guitar but I'm trying to figure out what those thumb screws are for. I can't find it on thier website. Oh, well not worth the effort. I have no need. I got a LoPRo!
     
  11. eaeolian

    eaeolian Pictures of guitars I don't even own anymore! Super Moderator

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    Fender made one in the mid-'80s, fine tuners and all. I still have one.

    https://reverb.com/item/312524-rare...cking-nut-for-stratocaster-vintage-strat-part

    And, damn, if he got that for it I'm selling mine!
     
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    It's the first sentence of the post you quoted. After you lock a Floyd's nut, for example, you have to re-tune...but how do you do that when the guitar's tuners on behind the locking nut? you use the fine tuners on the bridge. With this one, they are assuming your bridge doesn't have the necessary fine tuners, so they built then into this lock nut.
     
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    If it just floats I'll bet it doesn't work worth a crap. The only thing it *might* do is prevent friction binding in the string trees, and staggered tuners solve that by...removing the string trees. For a lot less than $175.
     
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    I'm going with my gut on this and resisting change like any sensible guitar player.
     
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