[Not] New Tosin Abasi signature [maybe] in the works - Abasi Guitars[Concepts] w/[out] Frank Falbo

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  1. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    Not sure if this is true or not, but it's possibly a 27'' - 25.5'' fan. Very close to the Iron Label.
     
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    jwade Doooooooooom

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    It looks kind of like even less of a fan than that, maybe 27-26?
     
  3. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    That's according to Darren, who apparently had a small hand in designing it.
     
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    Zalbu More time than skill

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    I like it, more ergonomic fanned frets is never a bad thing
     
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    Zeno SZ Hunter

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    That sure as hell ain't gonna stop me from trying
     
  6. canuck brian

    canuck brian Bowes Guitars Contributor

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    You really need to never be in charge of marketing. Ever.

    The 8 string market is probably under 1% of Ibanez' business so they're definitely not leaving everyone in the dust, nor are they being innovative when they're essentially just jumping on a bandwagon by going even more niche with a weird looking, fanned fret 8. Ibanez has a unique (RG) look which has been copied relentlessly by everyone (including myself) because its the product everyone wants. All they're doing is taking a chance on a really weird looking product that they hope will sell a few units and keep Tosin Abasi on their artist list. Again, this isn't forward thinking. This is a VERY niche product within a niche market with even more picky players.

    Is it a copy of others? No, but it's basically a strandberg/ibby BTB bass design with a very trendy bevel using the same control routing programming and designs of the Iron Label 8's. THe only thing that's really changed here is the body design and the location of production. They've also gone and done a stupid and used the giant soapbars again that are almost universally hated by everyone. Thats not innovation. Hell, Rondo Music beat everyone to the punch years ago on this.

    I'm really lost by the "more flexible" business line from Duncan and Dimarzio as they've got an absolutely ridiculous amount of products, catering to practically every type of music you could possibly think of. What exactly are you looking for these companies to produce and why exactly would they? Do you want them to create another set of signature pickups for an artist only to have them jump ship a year later after the models have been released?

    If you're looking down at Jackson, ESP or Schecter because of this guitar and the fact that the those companies haven't done it, stop. Why would they even bother? They've got a working business model, products people are buying in droves and their popularity is only increasing with models from Jackson like the Bulb sigs, Schecter with the new KM series after already making the guitar that everyone is basically ordering as customs from other companies, and ESP with ...ok ESP needs to make more extended scale range guitars, but since Schecter/ESP are basically the same company on the level of import guitars, diluting your product line with another product pulls sales away from established revenue streams. Ibanez hasn't been able to release a product to even remotely compete with Bulb's lines of 6 and 7's, let alone the Schecter KM series guitars delivering $2000-$3000 guitar features in a $1000 package, and every single year, they (Ibanez) re-issue guitars and build them completely different from the actual reissues.

    To sum up, get off Ibanez's dick. It's cool to see something different from Ibanez and lets hope they keep going in a newer creative direction rather than re-issuing 25 year old guitars that can't hold a candle to the actual guitar that they're supposed to be a reissue of.
     
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    Triple7 The Decepticon

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    I really like it...
     
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    GunpointMetal SS.org Regular

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    I don't get having a "low" string on an 8 if you're not gonna give it enough scale length....
     
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    range is range surely?. You dont necessarily buy a 7 and 8 string just for the lower string being as low as possible each time?

    For example my 8 strings low is a Gb or Ab depending on what im writing, which is commonly more a 7 string tuning. So my 8 is effectively a 7 string with an extra high. It was just about adding more notes to me and not "I need a 30inch scale length because I own an 8 string and of course that means the low is going to have to be Drop Db0"
     
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    I don't see this particular bevel as 'trendy' ... it serves as the arm bevel and is totally ergonomic in keeping with the overall intention of the design. It then goes on to visually harmonize with the upper bout, completing that arc. As a guitar designer, I find that a very nice visual/functional solution. I immediately thought of the Claas Moby Dick, though, but this shape probably predates even that approach.

    Agree with everyone that it looks better headless and probably would have been just as cool.
     
  11. canuck brian

    canuck brian Bowes Guitars Contributor

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    As a luthier, i find it trendy. If i release a guitar with anything close to that bevel, I'll get called out for following trends if history serves me properly. It's still a viable functional solution. Carvin, Schecter and Ibanez have all doing giant bevels in very recent days.
     
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    I learn about weird things here every day...
     
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    Deception deceived

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    Chokey Chicken mouth breather

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    Considering it's for one of the few people who actually utilizes the range, I don't think what you or anyone has to say about scale length really matters. If it works for him it works for him. Also the whole "x scale isn't long enough" thing needs to die. I've been playing a 26.5" scale 8 in whole step down tuning for a while now with absolutely zero issues. Scale length is overplayed 'round here.
     
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    JaxoBuzzo ....ing river pirate

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    Maaaan. Not as stoked on that now everything was cool, but that heel. If it works for him, that's cool, but I was hoping for something a little less...standard?
     
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    mongey SS.org Regular

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    while I applaud innovation and adopting new ideas by the big guitar companies , that thing is fugly
     
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    brutalwizard Pretty Your Petunia

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    I want it.....
     
  18. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    Aaaand you just went a bit too far. Simmer down a bit :lol:
     
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    honestly the more I see it in different angles, the more im liking it. The back view kinda relit the flame for me, its a really strange a quirky design but it REALLY suits tosin! Hes always had weird looking guitars :p

    very excited to see the finished product
     
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    I like it
     

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