So sort of randomly throughout the past couple of weeks I kept hearing this term pop up, Alt-lite, that I might have heard before but never really stopped to wonder how it differed from other groups it was mentioned along side — alt-right, white supremacists, nazis, etc. — but it also popped up in a podcast so I got a good dose of the ideology: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/626/white-haze Although this is not a super recent podcast, it dealt with the proud boys, who just that week popped up on my newsfeed as instigating a bar fight. The gist of it (/proud boys) being that it’s the alt-right without the racism. But still espousing that white male civilization is superior. As the podcast points out, that's not a big leap from "white men are superior", so do you think there is any way that can be interpreted that isn't still racist? Because I'm definitely not getting it. I mean, clearly a lot of the guys interviewed are still very racist anyway, so I wonder if this just a rebranding to get less internet censorship? White supremacists can't get into a club, so..., let's just use a different noun phrase, and then do the same shit. It also seems kind of hypocritically resentment-driven. If you go up for a job against a woman, and you lose, and then suddenly <your group> is being oppressed by <that group> vs. <you> lost to <that person>. This is basically the story of the founder. * I mean, not so serious a discussion. You can't take an ideology whose core tenets involve rules about not wanking too seriously.