NGD: Fractal FM3

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  1. budda

    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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    The axe fx iii models that :yesway:
     
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    Thrashman Got Groove?

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    And the FM3 does too if not soon I believe!! Yay!!!!

    I am so happy with the drive update that Cygnus would probably give me a stroke haha
     
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    It's really a combination of having a very directional cab on the floor played at loud volume, having a big high end loss from listening to it off axis usually, how our ears perceive that loud volume and maybe how a tube poweramp interacts with the speaker (even if the modeler tries to model this interaction).

    I can get pretty satisfying tones blasting my Genelec studio monitors (which go down to about 44 Hz so they definitely can cover the whole range of guitar) but it's still different from my real guitar cabs.
     
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    Im not saying it's not different, Im saying it's equally enjoyable.

    @laxu you messed with speaker compression and impedance curves yet?
     
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    I was actually supposed to mess with the impedance curves today but things got in the way. I've messed with getting the most out of headphone use so using the gain enhancer, cab block proximity effect and room reflections stuff and an enhancer block at the end of the chain all do make things bigger. The gain enhancer is actually really cool because it makes it feel a bit more like when you have that feedback loop with your guitar and speakers.
     
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    Oh dude, the speaker impedance curve is one of my favorite areas to tweak and I consider it 2nd most important after the Authentic/Ideal menus.

    Between the highs and lows, every ‘issue’ can be sorted out on the Speaker page, with the added bonus of making a Pignose sound like an Ampeg 8x10.
     
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    Any of you FM3 owners ever run your units in to a computer running Torpedo Wall Of Sound? I’m actually floored by the IRs and options to tweak them in my Axe FX III, but there are a few WOS cabs I dearly love.

    How do you run your setups? I’m thinking have one out of the Axe going to my headphones and a second out going to my computer and DAW to record. Have an internal IR on the headphone out, and have the out to the computer being shunted off after the amp block. Then adding WOS to the track.
     
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    Thats the beauty of a great modeler—so many ways to route.
     
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    between a custom amp, FM3 + KSR Power Amp, or Synergy/Randall hybrid, the FM3 option is looking increasingly good. I want to see how the new update will work tho
     
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    What exactly do you mean by "how it will work"?
     
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    Capture an IR of your favorite WOS presets then use them in your Axe.


    Edit: using the IR Capture tool in the Axe is pretty self-explanatory if you use Axe-Edit. It tells you how to hook everything up. You would just bypass the mic.
     
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    I guess I want to see how ppl like it first haha.
     
  13. budda

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    Who cares? Roll back if its not doing what you want :yesway:.

    Generally though, most users prefer the update unless a function they rely on (modifier, effect type) is changed in a way they dislike.
     
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    Some people will be annoyed that the have to re-dial in all their presets which is probable because Cygnus will change the way the amps sound.

    But the reviews from most AxeFX III users seems very positive so I am confident we can expect the same when Cygnus gets to the FM3.

    It’s a great option, yes.
     
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    Awesome idea! I hadn't even thought about that. Thank you.
     
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    You could probably tone match it too. I think Jason Scott on the Fractal Forum discusses this in a few of his posts. I’m less familiar with that approach.
     
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    Woot rediscovering boosting with PEQs. Turns my beloved Brit 800 sim into a fire breathing metal monster.

    Use the shelving filters on the ends to cut lows and highs, then boost the ever-living-hell out of the midrange, and pick a frequency around 600-650 Hz to give a little spike to add some "character." Loving it.

    Similar to how the VFE Standout does its thing, but I thought the Standout sounded a bit bland. Having the extra control to spike the midrange I think gives the benefits of the Standout with some of the character from using a more "voiced" OD pedal.
     
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    Decided to get the FM3! I'm keeping my AX8 for a good while.. Haven't had too much time to dive into the FM3 edit, but I couldn't figure out why the momentary switches for effects wouldn't work..
     

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    I have found out that combining well known sm57 for bite with some sort of LDC or ribbon mic can help you get you close to that "standing next to the guitar cab" sound. Good monitors that go low enough, or smaller with a sub, will help, too.
     
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    I do the same thing but it's still not quite the same.
     
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