NGD! Bostjan's Custom Oni 8 (56K - Dead milkmen)

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  1. ohio_eric

    ohio_eric Contributor

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    Actually carbom fiber and balsa could kick a lot of ass. I've seen telescope makers use carbon fiber coated foam to replace plywood and metal. Here's an example. My 28 Inch String Telescope

    So balsa and carbon fiber might be great.
     
  2. bostjan

    bostjan MicroMetal Contributor

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    That's an interesting telescope.

    I've always been a sucker for carbon fiber...and stainless steel.

    I've been playing with the tone filter in the Oni. Definately blows any standard high-pass tone knob out of the water.
     
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    Dan outdoes himself.....again! Sick guitar, guys!
     
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    damn, Dan, that turned out really nice. I couldn't really see much of it before ;-), but I love it!

    Is that one of the new Oni pickups?
     
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    angus SS.org Regular

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    I take it you used dry cloth?
     
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    darren Decibel Guitars Forum MVP

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    I'm not sure how good balsa is going to sound. It seems to have all the resonance of a dry sponge.
     
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    Great Guitar Dan!
    And Congrats Bostjan!!!!That's an uber Instrument!

    I dunno about Balsa...I made Lot's of Balsa models ,and the wood is somehow Spongy!!!I dunno if it's good enough for building guitars.That will be a great experiment!!!
     
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    Yup, and this could actually prove pretty interesting. Think of ye olde days, when so many believed a good tone was synonomous with a sturdy construction, heavy woods, heavy tuners as anchors to the strings.

    Knowledge change.. so think of todays cavity guitars and all the discussions about how different woods/materials interact.

    Using a wood like balza could simply result in an instrument with a greatly dispersed set of resonances.

    Last year I felt like taking up violin again, for use in symphonic metal, and wanted a 5-string viola type. Remembering how it was to hold/support the violin, I thought about using a balza/carbon construction, both for body and neck.

    Whatever, these guitars exibit beatyful craftwmanship. And those are some very interesting comments on details..
     
  9. dpm

    dpm Oni Guitars Contributor

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    Yeah, it was dry cloth, laminated surfboard style. I don't have the necessary gear for prepreg (like a big freezer to keep it in :lol:), though I might try resin infusion next time if it's feasible.

    I don't want to go too far into the balsa thing in this thread, but I don't believe it will be a problem as the carbon certainly plays a huge part in shaping the sound. If anything I suspect balsa will give a very neutral and versatile sound, judging by it's tap tone compared to the other woods I have here. You have to keep in mind this is composite technology, the essence of which is combining materials in complementary ways. In isolation carbon cloth lacks stiffness, combined with resin it becomes an incredibly strong and versatile material.
     
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    Dan, I sometimes think about the differences between the cold process I guess most (of us) can perform with carbon/resin/epoxy, and the industrial pressure/vacuum/heat molding methods, i.e. in terms of structural, and maybe sonic, capabilities.

    Which resin did you use BTW?

    WRT balza, I remember once reading that the first Lunar lander used balza as part of a shock absorber in the landing gear. Dunno about which other materials was used..
     
  11. Uber Mega

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    Even though the body shape doesn't do much for me, that looks like a masterpiece...I always liked the way Parker weren't scared to use unorthodox materials,and you've obviously gone leaps in an 8. That fretboard is killer!

    Nice axe!
     
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    Damn dude. Straight scale, chrome OFR 7, that could be absolute sex.
     
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    I'm speechless.

    Honestly, that is inspiring!
     
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    Incredible axe!

    _TJK*
     
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    That is an amazing looking guitar, I'm really intrigued by the synth pickup over so many strings.
     
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    Wow, Dan, it's stunning... and very impressive !

    Please, tell us more about the Magnetic Kill Switch
     
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    i'm in love. dan do you hand cut your fret slots, or do you have a jig figured out?
     
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    dpm Oni Guitars Contributor

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    It's just an on/off switch for the magnetic pickups, nothing exciting really.
     
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    dpm Oni Guitars Contributor

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    I have some tentative plans for jigged multiscale slots drawn up, but nothing firm that I want to follow up. I guess I hoping to jump straight to CNC'ing them, so right now I draw them up in CAD, then have that printed 1:1 and glue it directly on the board. I line up a fence with the plotted line and hand cut them. The paper gets planed off afterwards.

    BTW, nice to see you back :cool:
     
  20. Ishan

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    dpm> you should check these videos, it's from a company doing carbon fibre classical instruments:



    As you can see, they don't even use wood for support, I guess something as light as balsa could provide a base for any electric instrument shape. Yamaha is using a similar technic with their A.I.R. system but use maple front/back/side on balsa, it sounds really great.

    Very nice guitar btw, I always loved the way Parker did guitars with all those composite materials :)
     

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