NGD: Blackmachine B6

Discussion in 'Standard Guitars' started by IbanezDaemon, Feb 22, 2019.

  1. IbanezDaemon

    IbanezDaemon Raptus regaliter

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    Lol!!! Or with a bit more hype....

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    Velokki GAS station

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    I think the B6 is a fine guitar, with some really special touches - the singing resonance of the slim body being the most impressive thing.

    But yeah, a well-built Tom Anderson, some PRS'es and especially Aristides will get you that and more.

    I find the magic lay in the finish - it's just nearly unfinished wood with super tight construction. There's nothing deadening the tone, no "blankets to cover the sound", so to say.

    The one thing I find completely retarded is the jack placement. Like.. why? Impossible to play classically.
     
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    crackout The Yellow One

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    How about the lack of belly cut? Or the joke that is the arm rest?
    But yes, the jack placement is beyond stupid.
     
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    Velokki GAS station

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    Right, good points. Didn't notice any discomfort while playing it though, but it is definitely not designed with ergonomics as 1# priority. It's just a design - for some tastes, maybe a bit dated and too "industrial" in its simplicity and barebones outlook.

    For better or worse, they did inspire a lot of companies to come up with their copies of the design, but I find many luthiers who started to copy and improve on the BM design also lost a lot of the original guitar's meaning, coming up with crazy tops and paints. Sure - beautiful and tonally more versatile, especially Skervesen with their WDM. But none of the copies I've played have had that resonance and the super light weight. This is why I still thought of the B6 as something special in its own right, compared to a lot of other guitars.

    But then again, if you want to be purely rational, for ex. an Ibanez Prestige will get you so much value and a more ergonomic design. Blackmachines are just a silly boutique type of thing, which definitely will continue to divide opinions. I happened to like mine, and especially the resonance did put a grin on my face every time. But for tonal diversity and playing ergonomics whilst sitting down (jack socket placement), I always picked up my PRS or Skervie.

    Now, whether they're 3000€ good is a question that everyone has their own answer to. Would never pay more than that, though. And it makes, as I said in my own review thread, those who try to ask 5K-10K for a used B6 look like opportunistic clowns! :D You're essentially selling a guitar worth 2-3K + air worth of 3-7K.
     
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    ddtonfire SS.org Regular

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    I haven't had any issues playing in the classical position with the jack placement, but I also use a 90-degree phono on all my guitars. It would be very uncomfortable with a straight plug.
     
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    DickyTripleD SS.org Regular

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    What Id' be interested in is whether or not someone is making something that melds those two factors together well. I would say the S series, but I can't dig the neck shape, and I have no experience with any of the BMs to tell if the weight/resonance is actually comparable.
     
  7. Humbuck

    Humbuck Can't stop, won't stop

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    The guitars sell for what they sell for. Nobody is paying those crazy asking prices for any B6.
     

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