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Discussion in 'General Music Discussion' started by bhakan, Jan 21, 2015.
Yeah I've watched it more times then I can count haha
Never thought I'd see the day... first Half Life, and now Corelia finally responds. 2020 is one weird year.
probably everyone already read this but still
"To our fans, friends and family, and everyone else who supported us over these many years,
We have been incredibly naive and wrong to stay quiet about things that were happening in the band, which were affecting the production of the album. For the past 4 years we have been trying our best to manage severe mental illness issues within the band, and because of this, we didn’t feel comfortable talking about personal conditions publicly or how it was affecting the production of our music. We realize now that we handled these issues very poorly, and for this we're extremely sorry.
We are also very sorry for our poor communication about how the band was doing overall. We failed to communicate the progress we were making on the album and our album's marketing plans. We failed to let everyone know that we were still working on everything regardless of how long it was taking, especially considering we raised money for the album by crowdfunding it. Since the beginning, it was important for us to make decisions as a band unanimously, and this as well ended up affecting how slow we were to fix anything. We are immensely sorry we made these mistakes.
We started writing the album in 2012, and it took us about 3 years, which we privately named: “New Wilderness”. We launched an Indiegogo campaign to raise money and help us produce as close to a professional album as possible. We recorded drums, vocals, and the guitar parts. It was around this time that we started to really struggle with mental illness issues within the band, inhibiting our ability to make progress and post updates. Eventually we were able to come together and collectively agree that we needed to keep our fans updated on the progress of the album, although this was short-lived. That was in 2016 when we posted about having the bass parts recorded. Work then began on a large-scale viral marketing idea which would keep fans entertained and reassure everyone that we were still working on the album. This campaign was designed to keep going for about a year or so and ramp up, culminating into a big release of our album, which we had hoped would be by the end of 2018. We worked on this intensely while producing and editing the album until eventually, we decided that the marketing campaign was done, and needed to begin immediately so the fans could finally start to see something. That was when the communication started to break down. There was a point when a band member stopped all interaction with us and we couldn't move forward. We repeatedly reached out to them hoping to get back on track, but to no avail. Then we waited, feeling that it wasn't the appropriate time for us to make any statement, hoping naively things would get better. Eventually we came to terms with the fact that this person may never speak to us again, and that the band would have to break up.
It crushes us that we aren't able to follow through with a big album release including lots of artwork, promo and marketing, and all of the online interactives we had planned that we were teasing on our website and social media. We’re so sorry we let everyone down.
When we saw that a Corelia page with a different spelling had suddenly appeared saying they would release the album, we took it seriously because of the current circumstances within the band. Having already discussed making a public statement in the past, we decided to address the situation and move forward on our plans to make things right, regardless of who this page belonged to. Going forward, if we cannot get all band members involved, we will do what we can to release the most current state of the 90+ minutes of our album that we have access to. We will also be figuring out a plan to give all remaining funds back to contributors. We only ever spent funds on things or services that were directly for the production or release of the album. None of us ever received income or used any band funds to enrich ourselves personally. Since 2010, we all agreed- all money was only going to be used for the band's purposes, and all the work we each put into the band as band members was donated freely. We genuinely worked very hard over the 3 or so years following the crowdfunding event, though in a disorganized way, to record and produce a 90+ min album that we hoped everyone would love and we would be proud of.
We've only ever wanted to do what was right by the fans even though we constantly fell short of that goal. From the beginning, we never intended to hold up fans' hopes and contributions for so long without much of anything to show for it. We never intended for any of this to turn out this way, and for all the hurt we have caused our fans that have been waiting so patiently for anything to come out: We admit that it is our fault, we were naive, and we are very sorry.
We will be coming up with a plan to settle everything as best as we can. Our goal is to at the very least, make sure that each contributor is sent a digital album, then put the whole album up for free on bandcamp for anyone to have, and give back the remaining funds.
Our sincerest apologies to all our fans, friends, and family,
hopefuly they can make amends and finally release the damned thing.
The only thing that saddens me a bit, is that I know that even if they released it tomorrow, the hype I had for this band and this style is diminished after years and years of exposure to similar bands, so I doubt it would impact me as much as it could have
If it is the case that multiple members of the band are indeed dealing with "severe" mental illness, then I hope that they are getting the help that they need with the knowledge that health is more important than putting-out music.
If they are using mental illness as an excuse- thus furthering the miles-deep stigma of mental illness in society- then they can fuck off.
This. I hope for their sake they manage to figure something out and finally get this load off their shoulders; but the moment has passed. Which is why even though this statement feels very genuine to me and I'm tentatively believing them...it's difficult to get excited. Still though no matter what, it'd be really nice to see something happen. I never expected this saga to have a conclusion, so any form of closure would be nice I guess.
+1. These are pretty much my exact thoughts about the situation. Unfortunately, I just have a suspicion that it's the latter, but hopefully I'll be proven wrong (and I mean that)
Was surprised to see that I got a new campaign update email last night from indiegogo:
"To our indiegogo contributors,
We wanted to let everyone know that we will be posting some updates here in the coming weeks. If you were not already aware, we recently posted an update on our facebook page (https://bit.ly/2Ss4Lo2) regarding the state of Corelia as a band. Again, we want to reiterate our apologies for not updating everyone more often about everything happening and how it was affecting our productivity. Unfortunately due to the circumstances, our band has reached a point where we can no longer move forward with the production of the album and everything surrounding it, and will be doing our best to make things right with contributors. Our plan is to email all indiegogo contributors a link to download the last state of progress on the album, and we will be working out a plan for dispersing the remaining funds from the campaign. We will be updating you with more details on this next week.
It's nice that contributors will have something to download if they're still interested. The original crowdfunding pitch boasted of a 90min album which, if not total BS, could plausibly be informed by the runtime of demos- if so, there might be something substantial.
5 years of BS to get a "sorry, we're inept, here's a rough mix and some of your money back...probably"
I have sympathy for mental illness. I don't have sympathy for people using at as an excuse to be shitty to other people.
I mean, yeah, and I'm definitely on the "these guys pulled some really stupid, shady shit" train, but if there's no album there's no album. The odds of them getting trolled into actually finishing it up and releasing it were almost as likely as finding sentient life on the moon. And since they had started working on it, there isn't enough money to return it all anymore- so this feels like as good of an outcome as we could have realistically hoped for at this point.
IMO best outcome would be they never respond to any of it, never release the album, and hide from social media for the rest of their lives in shame of stealing almost $35k from people who wanted to support their art.
Backers will receive a download link to the album in demo quality on monday, just found that announcement in my inbox.
^Will they be supplying the download AND a refund?
No but there will be more updates in the coming weeks so I guess it’s not over yet.
For me personally I don’t care about a refund anymore, nor am I really looking forward to hearing the demos.
It’s all been so long ago it’s just something that already came and went for me.
I so think it’s good for people to get their money back though, a lot of them still feel strongly about it, and I only backed it with 20 bucks and there are of course people who pledged a whole lot more.
it'll just be interesting to see if the "95% complete" given is just unmixed demos or if they're just total divas who because they got so stuck up their own asses they wanted to make millions of revisions to something that was already fine
I wouldn't hold my breath, If anyone should be refunded it's the people who were suckered into the $600 tier to get cloaks that would give them lifetime backstage access if they wear it
The $150 Tier advertises lifetime access to any Corelia show for free + 50% off Corelia Merch at any show they perform at. They probably have maybe a couple thousand left over after all the recording costs, they should refund people from the top cost tiers downwards until it fizzles out. I don't see the people who preordered merch getting their cash back unless they actually plan on refunding the entire 33k.
It's 8 years in the making, and 5 years ago the music sounded like this
Going to bet it'll most sound like this maybe sans a few tracks that might not have been fully mixed or mastered/missing background instruments like keys and ambience. They said it was all tracked and recorded instrument wise before, so it should be the full 90 minute. Can't say I'm not excited to hear it, I hate how they handled this shit but I've spun Nostalgia hundreds of times and will probably still spin it with fond memories for a long time.
Anyone got anything yet? Today's the day, yes?
Haven’t gotten a link yet
It looks like it’s not coming today. Shocking.
it's finally here, can't fucking believe it
dude if the bands I record came with demos of this quality I wouldn't have the stress I always have
one song in and it's beautiful