New 2 Channel Rectifier? - Badlander

[narad]

Eeeeeeh, other amps he's had on the channel have sounded better IMO. Seems like he needs to dial back the presence knob.

The MI Megalith he had sounded much better IMO

Eh, I liked this demo. Overall there was a lot of treble in the sound that maybe could be dialed back on the presence, but the core tone seemed promising in a way that I really didn't hear much at all in the previous demos. I could list many of his demos that I thought sounded better (mark IIC++, uberschall, friedman cs50), but this doesn't seem bad for a new amp he's not even played around with. Plus his speakers are a bit different, and this sounds like it might work better with a darker speaker/cab. From the sound of things, it's not going to have any trouble cutting through!

Really interesting to see any "rectifier" with the bass on 5 and sounding tight. I'd probably maybe even run that at 6-7 by the looks of things. But I think it's best just not to compare to a rectifier -- I pulled out my Rev F the other night and was in awe again. This doesn't come close to that signature rectifier stuff, but I do see it sounding a lot like some other amps -- I mean, really seems to cut into TC territory a lot more.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

That sounds tons better.
His Recto vid sounds incredibly harsh in the highs, and has this weird pattern of noise where the mids should be (that's the only way i can describe it). It doesn't really seem to have any normal mids to my ear.
Eh, maybe Rectos really aren't for me after all.

The palm mutes sound REALLY weird. Like, they got a ton of attack and a bit of tightness, yet the low mids have weird "wub" sound going on. Like it doesn't know if it wants to be tight or muddy.

 

[Jon Pearson]

Eh, I liked this demo. Overall there was a lot of treble in the sound that maybe could be dialed back on the presence, but the core tone seemed promising in a way that I really didn't hear much at all in the previous demos. I could list many of his demos that I thought sounded better (mark IIC++, uberschall, friedman cs50), but this doesn't seem bad for a new amp he's not even played around with. Plus his speakers are a bit different, and this sounds like it might work better with a darker speaker/cab. From the sound of things, it's not going to have any trouble cutting through!

Really interesting to see any "rectifier" with the bass on 5 and sounding tight. I'd probably maybe even run that at 6-7 by the looks of things. But I think it's best just not to compare to a rectifier -- I pulled out my Rev F the other night and was in awe again. This doesn't come close to that signature rectifier stuff, but I do see it sounding a lot like some other amps -- I mean, really seems to cut into TC territory a lot more.

Glad you mentioned the TC thing, I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if they borrowed some from that circuit?

 

[Werecow]

The palm mutes sound REALLY weird. Like, they got a ton of attack and a bit of tightness, yet the low mids have weird "wub" sound going on.

Yeh. The whole tone sounds weird to my ears now. Like there's an artificial pattern of white noise played over the top of the tone. And now like you said, palm mutes that are both tight and flubby at the same time.

 

[Thaeon]

After comparing to Reza’s VH4 video I’m definitely not sidetracked by this one. I guess I’m a Diezel guy for sure. That MI Audio sounds killer though.

 

[Thaeon]

Looks like this Mesa produced demo is alright too. This dude gets some early Metallica tones from the amp. Like AJFA, and self titled era stuff. Which makes me reconsider. I need to play this thing.

 

[Emperoff]

I'm really enjoying all the vids posted. To me it sounds great in all of them. It's SO refreshing to not hear cocked wah metal tones for a change.

I guess I'm a Mesa guy at heart.

 

[Elric]

Most mult-effect pedals do it now. HX Stomp, HX Effects, Boss MS3, Fractal FM3, they can all do this.

Neither the HX Stomp nor the FM3 have relays. In fact, shockingly few MFX seem to do it, considering how useful it is. IMHO.

 

[Vince]

Neither the HX Stomp nor the FM3 have relays. In fact, shockingly few MFX seem to do it, considering how useful it is. IMHO.

You know what, you're right, and I stand corrected. I've used the MS3 and HX Effects in the past for this, and they worked great for channel switching. I assumed the FS 4/5 on the Stomp could be an output like on the HX Effects, but I stand corrected. You'll need a MIDI box like the new MIDI Matrix or RJM Amp Gizmo to do this with those devices.

 

[Elric]

I can't tell what it is but Reza has a way of making everything grind super hard, and I dig it. Not sure if its hands, pickups, speakers or what but his demos all sound great to me.

His speakers are bright as f*ck, I think. Nothing he demos sounds to me like any other demo, so I would not rely on them as I’d have to assume he is the outlier in that case. He mostly uses like Alnicos, I think.

 

[Jon Pearson]

His speakers are bright as f*ck, I think. Nothing he demos sounds to me like any other demo, so I would not rely on them as I’d have to assume he is the outlier in that case.

Oh I mean I don't rely on any one demo anyways, or really demos in general. I like watching them, but they aren't really indicative of how amps sound in the room or how I'll sound going through them. His are cool though because of how aggressive they sound.

 

[Emperoff]

Only Multi-FX units that still support relay switching are Boss models, I'm afraid.

 

[KnightBrolaire]

His speakers are bright as f*ck, I think. Nothing he demos sounds to me like any other demo, so I would not rely on them as I’d have to assume he is the outlier in that case. He mostly uses like Alnicos, I think.

Creambacks are definitely not bright lol
They're mellower than a v30 or greenback on the high end.

 

[LCW]

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His speakers are bright as f*ck, I think. Nothing he demos sounds to me like any other demo, so I would not rely on them as I’d have to assume he is the outlier in that case. He mostly uses like Alnicos, I think.

He says it at the beginning of every vid... Celestion Alnico Cream

 

[Elric]

Creambacks are definitely not bright lol
They're mellower than a v30 or greenback on the high end.

They aren’t cream backs, they’re Alnico creams as per the post above, I s’pose. All his clips are super bright. Just listen to his other clips, so it is either the speakers, the miccing or some other factors (guitars, pups, whatever), or some combination thereof. Point being, they are atypical.

I am not seeing many metal guys playing with Alnico speakers. They are primarily guys into vintage tones. So I guess I always figured that’s the cause but maybe its something else.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Looks like this Mesa produced demo is alright too. This dude gets some early Metallica tones from the amp. Like AJFA, and self titled era stuff. Which makes me reconsider. I need to play this thing.

Yep that does sound better than the Reza video. Reza seems to dial in his amps REALLY bright, and the last thing you want to do with a Recto is crank the presence and treble.

 

[Musiscience]

To my ears this sounds like an amp that has some of the mid range and tightness of the Mark series crossed with some of the bottom end of a recto (albeit really tamed v.s. previous versions). The fizzyness I always disliked in rectos also seems to be mostly gone. The clean sounds really nice too from the demos. Every time I played through a recto I found the clean to be very unremarkable and without character.

I'll reserve my judgement for when I get to play it, but it sounds like the amp I always wished Mesa made.

 

[KnightBrolaire]

To my ears this sounds like an amp that has some of the mid range and tightness of the Mark series crossed with some of the bottom end of a recto (albeit really tamed v.s. previous versions). The fizzyness I always disliked in rectos also seems to be mostly gone. The clean sounds really nice too from the demos. Every time I played through a recto I found the clean to be very unremarkable and without character.

I'll reserve my judgement for when I get to play it, but it sounds like the amp I always wished Mesa made.

Did you listen to that last Mesa demo vid? There were some great tones in there but nothing really similar to a Mark series imo. The Metallica esque tones in particular around 8:00 and 14:00 were meh. Still too squishy of low end to be compared to a Mark imo. It definitely sounds like a big improvement over the low end of most rectos, but that's not hard to do. Shit my F100 gets significantly tighter than rectos while still giving that recto growl.

 

[Musiscience]

Did you listen to that last Mesa demo vid? There were some great tones in there but nothing like a Mark series imo. The Metallica esque tones in particular around 8:00 were horrible. Way too squishy of low end to be compared to a Mark. Still sounds like a big improvement over the low end of most rectos, but that's not hard to do. Shit my F100 gets significantly tighter than rectos while still giving that recto growl.

I'm not saying it's a Mark, because it definitely is it's own thing. Marks are possibly my favorite amp series ever and I owned/giged a few in the past. On the other hand, I usually really dislike rectifiers and never cared to own one for that reason. To my ears at least, this has SOME of that tight characteristic Mark palm mute soud, but mixed with some recto flavor and sprinkled with an EL34esque something. Never played an F100, so can't comment on that.

Like I said, I know better than judging an amp over YouTube clips. Once I track one down at some point and put it through it's paces, I'll form an opinion of it. I like what I hear though.

 

[MatrixClaw]

Someone on Facebook is already trying to trade his for a Savage and I guess Reza already sold his