Neural DSP teasing something new (Quad Cortex)

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  1. aesthyrian

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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    For those concerned about returns/repairs, it says they're gonna have a service shop in the US, Canada, and some Asian countries. So that helps ease some concerns.
     
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    I hope you're not serious. It's in plain english here:

    https://neuraldsp.com/quad-cortex/#pre-order
     
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    Sounds about right. Like people asking questions that are clearly answered in the FAQ section. That's the first place I go to. Oh well, what can ya do? I still have a little hope for humanity.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    Your snark has been much more on point and funnier lately, I applaud you :rofl:
     
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    I play music SS.org Regular

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    Yeah, I already found it out now but in the shopping cart view it is confusing. Also I should go to bed to recover some of my processing power.
    Plus, I only have one core :lol:
     
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    One question is whether this has profiling which can be accessed by the user to profile their own amps. I didn’t see a clear answer to that anywhere yet.

    If so, this is a Kemper 2.0 and an Axe FX. As @Lorcan Ward said, profiling is hit or miss, since you can’t really tweak them well afterwards. But if this has good amp models by Neural AND profiling (with an online store, which seems to be the case), this will be awesome.
     
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    I preordered this so damn fast. lol
     
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    From thegearpage:


    Does your approach allow the end-user to capture the sound of their own rig?
    Of course, a big reason why we included not one, but 2 mic preamps ;).

    It seems Doug Castro is more active over on TGP. Fair enough. The thread there is 40 pages.
     
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    Awesome. So yeah, this could be a game changer. Since Kemper haven’t updated their hardware for almost a decade now, I think a lot of people will jump to this. Especially awesome that it isn’t ‘just’ a profiler, but also a modelling platform.
     
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    Also, from Doug Castro on TGP:

    "Our deep learning approach allows us to use more sophisticated loss functions (ours is based on human perception, which results in a much more "accurate" black-box model). Of course, you need a lot more computational power, which is another reason we had to make such a powerful unit: when using Neural Capture the neural network uses 4 SHARC cores in tandem for training).

    This approach generalizes better (it can cope with a wider range of sounds), and can even learn parallel signal paths (such as multiband distortion or pedals with a clean blend, dual microphones)."

    I stayed away from Kemper for a bit and broke down and purchased the Stage a few weeks ago. I love it, but this has me very interested. Tempted to jump on the pre-order, but right now it's all hype until some reviews come in. Kemper is proven.
     
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    Xaios Foolish Mortal Contributor

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    Steven Wilson has left the chat.
     
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    Went with the preorder. I ordered the Plini awhile back to use on the road, and it was surprisingly inspirational to play with. I can’t tell if I got on the first 1000 though.
     
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    Would Steven Wilson even use an amp modeler? I would have figured he'd still be too busy filming himself in the woods smashing iPods.
     
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    SamSam GAS problems

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    The ss.org quote of the year has arrived far earlier than anticipated.
     
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    It's a bit unclear. First 1000 units are numbered but was the pre-order batch also "only" 1000 units?


    I was close to pre-ordering one but had to stop and think why.

    You get a numbered unit.
    Receive a certificate of ownership. So like a receipt? =)
    Booklet with pics. Like a manual you won't read anyway? =)
    Sure you get yours a bit sooner than the rest but that wouldn't matter to me.

    What if they notice they done goofed and come out with a new revision just after.
    What if demand is so big they release another model ASAP.
    Wait and get the chance to snag a 2nd hand unit.
    Wait and see/hear the reviews.
    NAMM is around the corner and who knows what else will be out before this ships.
    Maybe this unit will be so good others have to cut prices so those might seems like a better value.

    On the other hand, the deposit is refundable so it would only be like a interest free loan to them in worst case.
    Choices.
    #GAS


    EDIT:
    f*ck it. Pre-ordered.
    Earlier today Doug commented on TGP that they had sold already 98%.


    EDIT 2: was like 15min late for first 1000. Might as well cancel.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/B7OjWNWnRFb/
     
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    I'm surprised how okay some of you guys are with paying $1600 for a modeler only for it to already have hundreds of dollars worth of DLC from the get-go.

    That's why I was always a fan of the Axe FX compared to the pre-Helix Line 6 stuff or the Kemper, you didn't have to pay to get more tones you simply had them all. In fact, that's the reason I always was interested in one, cause you got ALL of the sounds and features from day 1 (+ free updates later on) without ever having to drop another cent.

    This product seems cool and I know the modeling is already proven, but man does it suck to see them pushing an EA/Activision approach of "Here's our $60 game, we're already announcing $100 worth of DLC for it" which has become hated in the gaming world.
     
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    He's still using the same BadCat Lynx 50 hes had forever, but added a small H&K 112 for his newest record. Doubtful we'd ever see him switch to a modeling solution, his views on music are still very much rooted in the 70s.
     
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    It seems there are only a few ways to make money in this game:

    1) You release a really expensive hardware piece every few years, but it's a one time buy.

    2) You just update software occasionally. Keeping your hardware development costs minimal.

    3) You release content for sale in a segmented approach.

    There's no pleasing everyone, but thankfully there are plenty of products out there.
     
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