Neural DSP plugins for practise?

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  1. mongey

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    FWIW

    I just use bias fx for my direct plugging in messing about if I cant be assed hooking up my amp to my torpedo live

    everyone rags on it but for what it is, but it sounds plenty good enough to me
     
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    Could you please post that thread? I did a search on here but only turned up 2 pages of outdated stuff.
     
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    budda Do not criticize as this Contributor

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    Yes, they are very good amp sims and sounds excellent
    HOWEVER
    That does mean you could practice with them. They are perfect for mixing and full production, but when comes down to actually practice with your hands, they are far from real amps. This is a common issue with simulation, while they have great sound, but they don't react like a real amp. This will affect a lot to your dynamic, where you practice to pick hard or light. On a real tube amp, you always find obvious and natural dynamic if you pick a note at different force, this is where you need to have precise control on your hands, ultimately to get a good guitar DI.
     
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    Tube amp snob here... have tried Strymon Iridium, Amplitube, BiasFX etc. through my Focusrite Scarlett Gen 3 & KRK Rockit 5’s w/10” KRK Sub. Never liked the sound ... until recently trying Neural Plug Ins ... totally blown away with how great they sound.

    Highly recommend them for playing & practice. Once you get used to playing with fully effected sound through monitors - it’s awesome! The ability to get so many great tones for so cheap is a crazy thing. I highly recommend the Gojira plug in as a first step.

    Neural plug ins are 50% right now but sale ends in a day or so.
     
  7. TomRaw

    TomRaw Totally Can't Play

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    Sale's over now. I agree though. I spent a ton on Bias and upgrades and always found myself trying to get "the right" tone.

    Then I heard about the Neural 50% blowout and grabbed a few plugins. While I was trialing them though, both Fortin Cali and Nameless had better tone on launching the app then my Bias patches I'd worked on for at least a couple of hours. Neural has this extra warmth that really emulates that tube sound quite well to my ears.
     
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    I am new to all of the digital plug-ins as well. I am also looking into this method, but I spend most of my "free" time in hotels when I'm not working. I don't want to bring a whole bunch of gear with me to practice and I've been wanting to go down this path.

    One question I have is, do you need a DAW to get these plug-ins to work?
     
  9. Blytheryn

    Blytheryn Musical Adam West

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    No. Only for tracking. They have a stand-alone app. You just need an interface.
     
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    I’m surprised nobody mentioned the lag. I have a good interface, but with minimum 8ms latency, I haven’t been able to like any plugin, PC or Mac that feels as good as AxeFx or my amp. Especially with fast runs, I have no idea what’s going on if I try to listen to the laggy sim. Thank god for trials, definitely try before you buy.
     
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    Blytheryn Musical Adam West

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    Depends on your interface and settings. I think I have something like 3.7
     
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    8ms is not that low. IIRC, I have a RTL under 5ms.
     
  13. Poul Winther Knudsen

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    Please do explain why it is so important to you not to pay for peoples efforts? With your line of thinking don't expect anything to ever get developed again.
     
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    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    I bought Nameless for $100 and I don't even particularly like it so preach elsewhere.
     
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    I just got the Molly and Gojira plugins during their sale... Super happy with them so far for practicing. They sounds very good and between the two provide lots of versatility for recording as well.

    They have gates and tuners built in as well. So, it's really a perfect travel practice tool.
     
  16. Poul Winther Knudsen

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    You bought something you were allowed to try for two weeks and because you changed your mind it's alright to steal everything else? I'm not preaching, I just think even you can do better!
     
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    narad Progressive metal and politics

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    You are preaching and since I'm not even using the plugins, free or trial or bought or otherwise, you are most certainly preaching to the wrong person.
     
  18. Amer Alameddine

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    I tried both the Nolly one and the Gojira, and they sound pretty great. Having said that, the presets didn't sound good on my end, but that is understandable since the players who made them play differently, and have different guitar/pickup combinations, so it probably sounded as it should in their hands. With a few adjustments, I was able to get some of the presets to work great for me. However, I didn't end up purchasing either of those plugins, I still use the Mercuriall U530, I just got more used to it and I'm happier with the sounds I got of it.
     
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    I've yet to try a Neural plugin, but I used free sims for years and had no complaints at all; excellent options for getting setup on a budget. The Amplex stuff in particular is really good, as well as the Ignite Emissary. Pair that with a free IR and overdrive and you're well on your way to good tones.

    My only issue with VSTs is that you're tied to firing up a computer, which is the main appeal of a hardware modeller to me. I don't always need my pc on when I'm riffing around, so not needing to use it is a big plus for me.
     
  20. Emperoff

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    "steal?":rofl:

    Stealing a trial version? Are you serious?
     

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