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Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by sevenfoxes, Jun 29, 2021.
That’s a great story! So which 5150 is your favorite 5150?
That's a pretty bold statement. I sometimes think about selling my 6505, because I have a 5150 III 50-watt head that realistically I play a lot more often. But then I plug into the 6505 and always end up saying "nah, I'm never getting rid of this thing."
If you don't mind describing, what does this Stealth do that a regular OG 5150/6505 doesn't do, other than better cleans?
I think the mistake most people make when getting a 5153 is expecting the red channel to be an awesome rhythm guitar channel when in reality the gobs of gain it has really suits it better for liquidy leads. If people treated the blue channel like the “rhythm/chugga chugga” channel and red as the lead guitar channel it would make a lot more sense out of the box.
Regardless id be very interested to try a 5751 preamp tube in mine to see how it changes things
It’s definitely the 5150. The 5150 is awesome too though. Damn, so is the 5150. Tough to choose. All I know for sure is that the 5150 definitely comes in last. And even that one is still awesome.
Kinda funny, i actually just A/B’d my 6505 and the Stealth for a good hour. Here are my findings…
The Stealth is a 5150, no doubt. But the mids on the original are much more pronounced, sometimes even fatiguingly so, whereas the mids on the Stealth are better balanced and not so in your face.
Combine that with a tighter bottom end, and the Stealth automatically sounds much more modern, and aggressive.
The Stealth also seems to have a dryer gain structure, almost recto-like in that sense, but nevertheless is still 5150 flavor. It also seems to be a tad darker in tone.
Overall, i think the Stealth sounds like a turbo charged, modern 5150, and sounds/feels more lively and energetic.
The 5150 holds its own against the Stealth, but the Stealth is definitely an upgrade to these ears.
I still haven’t decided if I’m going to sell my 6505, but i really don’t think I’d miss it if i did.
In truth, my favorite is the Stealth 50. After that I think the Invective, 6505, and EL34 50 are tied. All three are great, but the Stealth 50 is pretty much perfect imo
I would have gone for the Stealth 50, but i like the bigger low end/fuller sound and less compression of the 100w.
But that’s just amps in general for me.
My local shop has a 100W 5150 EL34 “100S”. Has all the Stealth features (individual resonance, external bias points). Sounds sick AF!!! But gigantic and still $2300. But if I was in the market that’s the one I’d get. The EL34 100 has some warmth that my 50W Stealth just didn’t have.
Did you get a chance to A/B the Stealth 50 with the 100?
I found the 50 to have better cleans, and i actually liked the blue channel more! But the red channel on the 100 was pure sex!
Another thing i want to note about the Stealth 100w vs the 50 is the green channel. It does break up pretty fast, but the gain structure on this channel is plexi bliss!
I wish it was like that on the 50, but the tradeoff is much more useable clean channel.
Ive never had a 100w EVH. Shocking, I know.
With stock tubes in the 50S, cranking all the knobs on the green channel is plexi sexiness.
You should try it on the 100.
Got your amp’s brother today…
But don’t tell me you sold the Rev F for it.
I picked up a 50 watt stealth a few months ago. I had a V1 6l6 50 watt a few years ago and ended up selling it. The volume jump between channels before the concentric pots was just too much for me. The stealth is my ultimate amp, I figured I better pick up the last one Eddie had some input on. Channel three has so much gain it’s insane. I don’t really play leads so I have mine set up with the blue channel about dimed and the red at least than 9 o’clock and the gain is pretty similar at that setting, but you can get a bit more of a scooped and compressed sound out of the red channel. I didn’t notice the 100w has individual resonance and presence, tbh I’d much rather have that than midi which I’ll probably never use. Happy NAD!
I got my Stealth 100 earlier this week. I don’t know if this is the honeymoon period talking but it might be my favorite amp. I boost every amp I’ve owned but the red channel doesn’t need it at all. It’s present and full sounding with no flub at all while keeping its low end oomph. I used to think I liked peavey 5150s more than the evh stuff but the stealth is my favorite variant.